Fr. Barron comments on "dumbed down" Catholicism

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[gwalj]

Well maybe it's just me, but I prefer Fr Barron when he is talking rather than preaching. He seems to be putting a little too much effort into this, and I find it exhausting to watch! I greatly respect Fr Barron, and this comment is meant to be a constructive one. Anyone else agree?

[wordonfirevideo]

@gwalj Well friend, I was speaking to an audience of 20,000 when that was filmed. A little energy was called for. If you want to hear my preaching in a more conventional setting, go on my website. I've got more than 500 sermons in audio version there.

[MatyldaJola]

I think there are many ways to teach faith... intellectual, philosophical books might be too hard for some people.. we have different capacities and talents... but I agree, if someone can read Shakespeare.... religious comic book is not on the appropriate level. But at the same time it might be appropriate for little ones.

Still, I think there is such a variety of great catholic writers (different levels)... If you cannot read St. Thomas... you can try Chesterton (easier)... or C.S. Lewis.. :-)

[wordonfirevideo]

@MatyldaJola But I'm not talking about "little ones" here. I'm talking about the same high school students who are reading Shakespeare, Einstein, and Virgil. I'm wondering why we can't give them something substantive in the area of religion.

[autumnwindwalker]

Father, I struggle with this. The world wasn't created nonviolently, not according to scientists and astronomers and data from Hubble, etc. Can you help me reconcile these two views, the Biblical "the world is spoken into being" and the scientific "the world (as in this planet; I'm not talking about human culture here) was born in struggle and strife and definite violence"? Thanks

[wordonfirevideo]

@autumnwindwalker Violence is not the same as force. It is a willful desire to harm another. There is none of that at the origins of the universe.

[wordonfirevideo]

@chicraig6421 Oh spare me! I've been perfectly upfront about the crimes of religious people up and down the ages. None of it tells against the church's essential goodness or the incredible wealth of its intellectual, spiritual, and artistic tradition. And friend, if you think Catholic theology is at the level of a comic book, I would suggest you read a little Augustine, Origen, Thomas Aquinas, Anselm, Newman, Chesterton, etc. etc.

[cfanderson1]

Hard to understand why publishers do this. It's even harder to understand why DREs buy them. Could they just not know any intelligent young people??? (Sorry, this really is very perplexing!)

I care deeply about handing on the Faith to my family in a way which touches not only their hearts, but also their minds . Furthermore, both of my children, who graduated Magna Cum Laude and are now medical residents, DESERVE to have the Faith presented to them - in ALL its beauty and depth! Thanks!!!!

[HMCyouthtube]

...When I was a DRE with younger kids, I heard a long line of parents calling or visiting the older kids' DRE to complain that what he was trying to teach (some real meat for a change) was "too hard," insisting the point was to bring kids closer to Jesus which doesn't involve the intellect at all. Most of the kids, tho, loved having something that didn't insult their intelligence for once. Sadly, many of today's Catholic parents "Don't know how much they don't know"--yet think they know it all.

[HMCyouthtube]

@gwalj For many of us who work with parents and kids in catechetical settings nowadays, his "effort" is totally worth it and greatly needed -- not exhausting at all but ENERGIZING! There's a real disparity today, as Fr. B notes, between textbooks for religion and textbooks for regular school subjects. AS TO THE WHY... Why do religion publishers do this? Why do DREs buy this stuff? Because we have a vast generation of uncatechized parents/catechists who don't know the importance themselves

[Mcstroke57]

Purgatory is not biblical.

1 John 1:7 "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin."

Colossians 2:14 "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;"

Nowhere in Scripture does it say one will have to undergo "purification" after death. There is no detour to heaven.

[epiksonik]

The summary imprisonment of the pope and catholic hierarchy is an important goal worth thinking about. They cannot be described as victims of having thoughts that are contrary to secularists. They are the thought police, but since the foundation has been set, the meek have inherited the unsightly duty of baton wielding. Their total lack of contempt for the people, as is the case in politics, is a lie. In fact, the whole industry of suffering and conflict is virtuous in their philosophy.

[epiksonik]

All doctrines created by the popes and catholic hierarchy should be placed in guarded environments and studied in the same manner as dangerous contagions observed by bacteriologists and virologists in laboratories. Only written works created by laymen or persons such as Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine should remain for public scrutiny. The motivations behind these creations were not based in ordered control of people's liberty and through the brutality of monolithic bureaucracy.