Monty Python Communist Quiz sketch

Live from the Hollywood Bowl sketch from Monty Python - Communist quiz featuring Marx, Lenin, Che, Mao. A great parody...

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[rantifusaxp]

Oh, I get it now :) You think there are no financial incentives in socialism.

[feelgoodslavery]

I know of one, absolutely rock-solid argument for communism that every Westerner with a television set will agree with: Communism means the annihilation of the game show.

[Trojanponey]

Not nessesarily in Socialism, rather just in General. If I'm the one who put the money/resources down to start an enterprise then why do I need to share the profits with people who came later? Someone expecting to be treated as a "partner" when they had nothing to do with the original foundation is parasitical. Also, whats wrong with private property? If I'm using something, then isn't it inherently mine?

[rantifusaxp]

private property? in socialism?

[Trojanponey]

Oh now hold on there buddy, if I'm the one who baught the means to production and own the property and put my blood sweat and tears into making a company, I don't HAVE to give partnership to my employees, they work for me because they see a benefit to working for me. I hire them because I have a benefit in hireing them. They are not my partners because they didn't help me build the business.

[cowboyzsuk81]

Oh. Shit. lol

[Coteer]

Oh lookie, someone who thinks that communism must follow Marxist doctrine. When I said state, I was referring to the government around which everything is now centralized, but nevertheless, communism can exist in a single nation or global, and may be centralized or decentralized, depending on the form.

And no, you can totally implement socialism in one state. Mao and other did actually succeed. Problem was though that those nations completely sucked because of centralized influence/power.

[rantifusaxp]

You would be gaining more than an extra pair of hands. I don't know the word in english for this, but maybe it sounds similar in spanish. PLUSVALIA. Google translates it as "added value", but I'm not sure it's a good translation, so I'm gonna explain it. If he is your EMPLOYEE, he would be generating enough money for his wage AND some extra money for you. He could be your partner instead, and then you would have your extra pair of hands and there would be no explotation.

[Trojanponey]

Ahh ok, see I'm used too many Communists making the distinction of Proletariat vs Bourgeois based on wealth; ala a Doctor, despite being a worker, is still Rich. Which is silly. My only real problem at this point then is that if I want to hire workers, and they're willing to work for me at the wage I'm willing to pay them, then there's nothing inherently wrong with that. They're obviously gaining something, and I'm gaining extra pairs of hands lol.

[rantifusaxp]

Earning more money for working than other worker doesn't make a class separation. I, earning less than 500 dollars a month, belong to the same class (the worker class) than a doctor or an arquitect that earn maybe 10 times what I earn. As long as they are workers of course (being employees, independant or part of a cooperative). If they have employees, then THERE is a difference, the same way that an employer who earns 500 dollars a month, just like me, doesn't belong to the workers class.

[Trojanponey]

Ugh I hate fiat money, honestly I'd rather by paid in a brick of Lithium but that's neither here nor there.

Personally, I consider myself a Capitalist, but by your scale I think I can see how you would call me a centrist. I am familier with the spectrum, but I am VASTLY more hesitant about planned economies. I just don't think they can work at least not as well a a free-flowing market. Lol linear spectra and I don't get along so well XD.

[Trojanponey]

I completely agree; I may be a Capitalist but I recognize that Communism, the Ideology, didn't cause those horrible atrocities, PEOPLE did. I simply make the same argument about Libertarian Capitalism.

Hell, tbh, there are aspects of Communism I actually kinda like. lol