Eating Animals

In which I talk about the book "Eating Animals" by Jonathan Safran Foer.

Next month's book will be:
"On the Road"- Jack Kerouac

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[urantivirus]

Right, if someone goes vegetarian, they must be against animal cruelty. Therefor you should just be a vegan. I don't think so. I'm all for stopping animal cruelty and I think changing how the whole industry works would be a good idea. But it'll be a cold day in hell when I go vegetarian or vegan. lol

Animals eat animals, get over it.

[thepeteris]

@urantivirus I believe that I said, IF a person is vegetarian BECAUSE they are against animal cruelty, then they should be vegan too. Obviously there are other scenarios outside of that conditional statement. Such as a person who is vegetarian for other reasons. Or a person who is against animal cruelty but chooses to not change their diet.

[LacieAmaiKoi]

My family hunts and they kill animals humanely. If animals were not killed and everyone in the world were vegans we would have an overpopulation of animals that would need to be killed because of lack of occupy-able space/crops vital for human existence. Crops are a big deal, and with an overpopulation of animals, our crops would become less and less, therefore forcing us to once again kill animals.

[thepeteris]

@LacieAmaiKoi Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, the ecosystem regulated itself and got on just fine for billions of years with out any human intervention.

That said, I'm not at all against you hunting. I'm against the meat industry. Getting rid of the meat industry wouldn't result in more animals, it would result in less. We would stop creating billions of animals for our consumption every year.

[alyiswriting]

I am a vegan, and I sincerely enjoyed listening to you speak intelligently and thoughtfully about this topic. My main reason for being vegan is to avoid harming animals, and after watching this I realize I do tend to imagine animals thinking and experiencing in a very human way, which they likely don't. Still, as you touch on in the end, even if the pain is different, it's still there to some degree, and there are many other things we can eat besides animals.

Are you still vegan(ish) now?

[thepeteris]

@alyiswriting I'm actually still in the transition to becoming vegan in the first place. Which is not to say that I took it really slow and easy in switching over. I stopped buying non-vegan stuff immediately, I was just stocked up on some stuff, that I'm still working my way through. Namely Ramen. I should be done with all that by the end of this month though. But I've been eating about 95% vegan, save for those few lingering items. It's actually been pretty enjoyable.

[Harnaschmacher]

I notice you have some sort of framed certificate on your wall.

This means that you've succeeded at something.

Congratulations!

[thepeteris]

@WillsOdyssey One might argue that the massively inefficient and environmentally hazardous meat industry is very much "broken".

[eviatkin]

@newgateway1 If you read MY argument well, it is not tradition but evolution. We have evolved eating animals since forever which means we are biologically constructed to eat animals. We have evolved to have the teeth to tear appart meat, the digestive system do digest meat and so on. Research has been done in the field and it has been proved over and over that meat may not be VITAL, but very good for certain aspects, especially for kids.

[newgateway1]

@eviatkin you want a debate but your main argument was tradition? You need to learn how to debate first. If you read my other posts you would know that I agree with what you were saying, just not how you were saying it anyway. And animals have nerves, they feel pain, who are you to say how they experience it, have you ever been a cow? didn't think so.

[eviatkin]

@newgateway1 insulting? way to go! that's what i call a civilized debate.

We have not TORTURED animal forever, the whole bad condition thing is pretty recent, and that's what we should stop. Eating animals is not bad, go try and turn a lion vegan.

[elmolly93]

I havent eaten meat in over a Year Im healthy

[newgateway1]

@eviatkin what a good reason, we've eaten that way forever why stop? fucking idiot.

[newgateway1]

@pattyshelby It's relieving sure, but when they are forced to have calfs so that they do produce milk is absurd, We are forcing them to be in pain. with eggs the chickens are packed so tight they cant even move, and once they are past a year old they are sent to be killed because they don't produce as much. get your facts straight bud.

[newgateway1]

I've read that book before and I am fairly certain a lot of it talks about eating local, humanly treated animals. such as the turkey farm. I have been a vegetarian for a year and I plan on eating meat again but only if it is locally grown/humanly killed. You should look into this.