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REAL PROOF OF NET GAINS! This is the video evidence people will be talking about. I know I will! Tests with the Briggs & Stratton run time test stand with the new higher efficiency Batt-Cell. These are video highlights taken directly from my live Justin.tv broadcasts.

There have been a lot of good questions in the comments section. I will attempt to address some of them here.

I did test with several load conditions as well. Just didn't put that in this video. All the data will be presented at http://alt-nrg.org/ when I have it compiled. In a nutshell, I tested with no load, 1/3HP and 2/3HP passive load. Each of these conditions was tested with no HHO, 335ml/min HHO (5A or 1/6HP) and 670ml/min HHO (10A or 1/3HP). IN ALL CASES I RECORDED THE SAME NET GAINS. I too expected it would roll off under load but it did not. ROI was LINEAR ACROSS THE BOARD! You get back what you put in. Period.

When I went to 20A (1.3LPM) it was too much HHO for an unmodified system without retarded timing (My apologies to Massachusetts residents in whose state it is now illegal to use the term retarded. DEAL WITH IT). With this much HHO it becomes the fuel rather than a catalyst for the gasoline, detonating too far in advance and actually causing a loss of efficiency.

This is NOT OVER UNITY! Mixing HHO with the gasoline acts as a catalyst to make the gasoline burn more completely INSIDE the combustion chamber where it can do work against the piston rather than burning slowly out the exhaust where all that energy is lost as heat. We're not creating energy. We're simply recapturing lost energy. But the ROI is greater than 2:1 and that is exciting!

The thing to remember is efficiency counts. Low efficiency cells will clean the exhaust (I did smell the difference) but the energy equation is still negative. You need an efficient cell to get over the hump. Trouble is cats are maintenance free. Controllers like the Sq1 SIC will go a LONG way toward making HHO as maintenance free as it can possibly be.

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  • Zero! I have been following you for about 2 years, have watched ALL of your videos, and a lot of the JustinTV series. Thank you for your dedication. This is absolutly wonderful. YOU DID IT!! just want to commend you for all of you hard work, it is truly inspiring. So HHO proven. Whats next, back to the magnets ? Gonna go solve another energy problem?? Gonna go invent some solar wallpaper??? Kinetic energy for your home???? Well I'll be proudly watching and spreading the word! Keep it up Peace.

  • @jesse8941 From the start I approached this experiment with the full expectation that I would disprove HHO really works and allowed the data to speak for itself. It spoke LOUDLY. I am as surprised by the results as other skeptics may be. Now I'm going to modify a motor to leverage the combustion properties of hydrogen and make it run on 100% water, without the Stanley Meyers hocus pocus.

    And yes, I have a full set of new magnets for my indoor winter project so that's probably 1st.

  • @ZeroFossilFuel its getting more exciting Z!!! thanks for your work... one question... when doing the run test with and without the HHO, did you tune the engine in both condition with the same RPM?

  • @wiwizpot Yes.

  • I would love to know how closed minded skeptics like Mike Allen of Poopular Mechanics would respond to this now. I've always felt that he and others like him have abused their influential positions in the way that they seemed to arrogantly proclaim that this was all a scam and the dream of foolish little minds. It would be fun to rub his nose in it a little, wouldn't it? Can you say corporate puppets?.....sure you can. Nice work!

  • @captainwho1 That is SUCH an excellent question! I think someone should bring these tests to their attention. Don't you?

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  • Great work Zero.

    Net gain, and that is without adjusting the the mix screw to lean out the motor...

    Wow..

    WOW..

    My friend, you Rock.

    Peace.

    Mike.

  • @jmsapinoso

    The other thing skeptics don't realize is that their commonly accepted scientific practices are subject to a flawed approval process. That means that many things may be excluded from text books, because scientists were unable to replicate the results, or outside interests would not allow the findings to be published, for fear of what public knowledge could do to sales of associated products. Big Business determines what can be called truth.

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  • What was the 1/4 turn adjustsment? HHO injection rate or Fuel mix?

    Either way the amount of time increase is almost insignificant.

    I worked on an experimental carburator in the mid 70s and I think that you will find that a small amount of vaporized water injection will have the same effect as the so called HHO you are using. I Believe that it is working somewhat like a steam engine & increases efficiency slightly.

  • You want a source of free energy? pilot lights for gas heaters have a thermalcouple this takes heat and converts it to power. I don't know how much power, but a few should produce quite a few volts to ad to a second HHO gen.

  • It's possible you could get the Batt Cell up to 9 MMW and if you had a more efficient engine with overhead valves etc you could possible be 1.5 times where you are now. Something to think about.

    Since you are the designer of the Batt Cell are you going to call your Lab the Batt Cave and when you put the Batt Cell in you car will you call it the Batt Mobile :-)

  • Well done. I not the smartest person around but i think need to upgrade ur engine alittle bit. Have u consider using a hotter spark plug?

  • Very well done!! That is amazing, its been very exciting watching you develop it so far!!

  • Dam good work Z, I've been watching your vid"s for quite some time now. I do have a question tho, did you modify the alternator you used in any way? only reason I ask is because I know that your standard alternator only works efficently (as it can anyway) at a certian RPM range and theres no pully system in place, direct drive, so its only spinning around 3K rpm, not only that but they only engage once the power supply drops to a certian voltage.just wondering if you took all that into account

  • Zero, thanks for all your hard work! I have been following you for about two years and I am going to carry on your work in a bit of a different direction. I make a CNGPUMPcom home fueling station. This CNGPUMP fuels a CNG car with compressed natural gas from your home or business. In my uncoming videos we will be using a CNG car, and filling the tank at 3600psi with home made hydrogen (less the oxygen) no BOOM, hydrodgen stores well at 3600 and elimates the need for an HHO generaotor on board.

  • ....are so many engines being run solely on hydrogen? The implosion only occurs if and when enough heat is extracted after the explosion to allow the pressure and temperature conditions to be such that the water vapor is allowed to condense. This would not and does not happen within the cylinder of the engine during the power stroke of the engine.

  • @FreeEnergyNow1

    Wow, you sound like a kook! Zero's experiment was concerning supplementing gasoline with 2H2 + O2 which has been done by a number of research institutions such as JPL, only he did it with onboard electrolysis. He did not run the engine only on 2H2 + O2. There's nothing to be gained by arguing with a kook...and um....a little book learning couldn't hurt ya. By the way, your a little confused about the whole implosion thing, if you think there is no explosion then how ....

  • @captainwho1

    Really!

    Why do you think there is a implosion from HHO?

    Its because it burn 4400m/s and cools before allow it to expand, That is why there a implosion and not a explosion. Your just an idiot....

    HHO burn faster then gasoline, be an ass if you like.

    But lets cut though the BS, show me your engine running on HHO in any efficient way!

    Please make me eat my words, PLEASE!

    You're a scam and all of your HHO friends are too!

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