--> with the person or situation that is arousing it. It is when the anger has died down (hopefully without me acting out on it by yelling etc! ) that I can feel my heart soften with understanding, forgiveness, and / or love...I can remember somewhere that the Buddha said that mindfulness 'encircles and supports' all the other factors of the Path (or words to that effect)...
While also appreciating the Venerable Sujato's insights, I must add that in my experience, while love as a force does indeed cause anger to melt away, and is thus the remedy, that in the 'heat of the battle', in that moment when anger actually rushes up within me, only mindfulness can save me. If I try to feel love in that moment it is hollow and fake (for me). I focus on 'just feeling' the state of anger ( ie where is it in the body, or mind? how does it feel within me?) and apply patience -->
Whilst not reading all posts, I must agree with Our Legacy.
The Venerable Ajahn is using the word 'mindfulness' very loosely here.
Whilst his lecture is a very wise lecture regarding the problem of lust and the problem of repression and find a middle way, the Ajahn has spoken inaccurately at the end in regards to mindfulness and "what the Buddha said".
The Buddha spoken on numerous ways to overcome anger in probably hundreds of different discourses.
For Kirk. Consciousness is another element. All things are elements. If your mind can see in this way, it will also see the emptiness or selflessness of all things. To see all things as 'empty of self' is the way of the Buddha. The see all things as elements is also the way of the Buddha because being merely elements is being empty of 'self.' However, now you are infatuated with consciousness, thinking it will be reborn, as though it is 'you'. Consciousness is just another element.
A finer inter-connecting phenomenon experienced or encountered, which I may or may not have clearly conveyed previously, is that the eradication of mental defilements also means that one is protected from, unaffected, or untouched by them, such as anger, hatred, temptations, etc., so there is no need to combat against either the internal or external temptations, if one observes and practices the four foundations of awareness properly, diligently, and continuously.
Appreciate the feedback. I'm not monastic or academic but only wished to share the error (or incomplete truth) in representing metta as a skill (reliable or effective) rather than a restorative state (fool-proof) from continuous mindful practices in eradicating (vs hold-off) mental defilements. The differentiation is important since it can be validated by the accounts of others, my own practice, and what the Buddha taught (the topic of the video) in Satipatthana Sutta.
--> with the person or situation that is arousing it. It is when the anger has died down (hopefully without me acting out on it by yelling etc! ) that I can feel my heart soften with understanding, forgiveness, and / or love...I can remember somewhere that the Buddha said that mindfulness 'encircles and supports' all the other factors of the Path (or words to that effect)...
hearts0ngs 11 months ago
While also appreciating the Venerable Sujato's insights, I must add that in my experience, while love as a force does indeed cause anger to melt away, and is thus the remedy, that in the 'heat of the battle', in that moment when anger actually rushes up within me, only mindfulness can save me. If I try to feel love in that moment it is hollow and fake (for me). I focus on 'just feeling' the state of anger ( ie where is it in the body, or mind? how does it feel within me?) and apply patience -->
hearts0ngs 11 months ago
is he aussie? he's got an aussie accent.
angellicvoices 1 year ago
so its ok if i choke the bishop?
jbwhitebird 2 years ago
Whilst not reading all posts, I must agree with Our Legacy.
The Venerable Ajahn is using the word 'mindfulness' very loosely here.
Whilst his lecture is a very wise lecture regarding the problem of lust and the problem of repression and find a middle way, the Ajahn has spoken inaccurately at the end in regards to mindfulness and "what the Buddha said".
The Buddha spoken on numerous ways to overcome anger in probably hundreds of different discourses.
BarbarraBay 2 years ago
For Kirk. Consciousness is another element. All things are elements. If your mind can see in this way, it will also see the emptiness or selflessness of all things. To see all things as 'empty of self' is the way of the Buddha. The see all things as elements is also the way of the Buddha because being merely elements is being empty of 'self.' However, now you are infatuated with consciousness, thinking it will be reborn, as though it is 'you'. Consciousness is just another element.
BarbarraBay 2 years ago
I could be said the monk has used one teaching from thousands to say: "The Buddha taught this one way to remove anger".
Mindfulness in Buddhism is always co-joined with applied wisdom (sampajanna). Without wisdom, to remove anger with love (metta) can also be difficult.
Thinking "I must love" can be equally as unskilful and inaffective as "I must not have anger".
BarbarraBay 2 years ago
A finer inter-connecting phenomenon experienced or encountered, which I may or may not have clearly conveyed previously, is that the eradication of mental defilements also means that one is protected from, unaffected, or untouched by them, such as anger, hatred, temptations, etc., so there is no need to combat against either the internal or external temptations, if one observes and practices the four foundations of awareness properly, diligently, and continuously.
ourlegacy 3 years ago
Isn't truth universal? How do you mean by you are more of an upekkha man?
ourlegacy 3 years ago
Appreciate the feedback. I'm not monastic or academic but only wished to share the error (or incomplete truth) in representing metta as a skill (reliable or effective) rather than a restorative state (fool-proof) from continuous mindful practices in eradicating (vs hold-off) mental defilements. The differentiation is important since it can be validated by the accounts of others, my own practice, and what the Buddha taught (the topic of the video) in Satipatthana Sutta.
ourlegacy 3 years ago