cdesign proponentsists-the case against "Intelligent Design"

In 2004, the Dover school board ordered science teachers to read a statement to high school biology students suggesting that there is an alternative to Darwin's theory of evolution called intelligent design—the idea that life is too complex to have evolved naturally and therefore must have been designed by an intelligent agent. The teachers refused to comply. (For more on this, see Board vs. Teachers.) Later, parents opposed to intelligent design filed a lawsuit in federal court accusing the school board of violating the constitutional separation of church and state.

"Pushing back against the [Center for Science and Culture]'s attempts
to get ID into their science curricula, concerned citizens in
*Kansas*, Ohio, and elsewhere fought to thwart ID creationists' plans
to hijack their schools."

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[FighterDoken]

CONGRESS CANNOT PASS A LAW THAT PROMOTES ONE RELIGION OVER ANOTHER.

That very clause should be the end of this stupid ID issue. Come on.

[Nebzz]

"cdesign proponentsists" It's evolving!

[MorganMarvinson]

@ignatz1106 I've often wondered what this experience will do to him. Incarceration provides a lot of time for a person to think. Even though he would do it with a grin, his "I'm winning this argument because I'm right" (and not because of rhetorical skills) did display a lack of modesty for someone who is called by the name of Christ. I hope he comes back with humility and a better grasp of his opponents' point of view. The man is intelligent and he did present legitimate issues.

[Ambidexter143]

@MorganMarvinson

As it happens, I know what his complaints about public school textbooks are. They don't push the religious agenda he wants promoted. Instead, they go in for science and reality and all that stuff Hovind wants to replace with religious mythology.

[MorganMarvinson]

@Ambidexter143 "... Hovind specifically ..." A sweeping statement, which I would take as saying you aren't interesting in listening to the specifics of his complaints about public school textbooks.

Your opinion has been registered.

[Ambidexter143]

@MorganMarvinson

"Dr" Hovind specifically and consciously rejects reality and replaces it with a 2,500 year old myth. He then tries to prop up this myth by finding holes in evolution. He's a man with a religious agenda, not a scientific one.

[dildace]

cdesign proponentsists

[MorganMarvinson]

@ignatz1106 I commend your openness. I really need to be working on a research project in another field that I am doing, so I suggest you actually watch some of Hovind's presentations about what he finds unacceptable in the textbooks. You may not like his belief in God as the creator and will have to choke down the part you don't like, but he deals with specific issues in the texts that have been discredited.

I'll have to leave you to your conscience as to whether you follow through with this.

[MorganMarvinson]

@GuBB3rGuN I think you don't understand religious faith--and you aren't totally clear on the essence of evolutionary theory. Religious faith is based on evidence--it is not a total leap in the dark. One cannot accept Evolution without believing that life spontaneously arose (abiogenesis) and that random copy errors, coupled with live-or-die Natural Selection, can produce exquisite design. Those beliefs do not accord with any evidence I have read or observed.

[MorganMarvinson]

@ignatz1106 "I thought you were more intelligent than that ..." So how am I to take this jab? I am intelligent, and you apparently like to throw insults.

Do you want me to go through issue by issue to tell you where I agree with him? Why not start with what I have gone on record as supporting--that there are many things in public school biology texts that are no longer supported by the scientific community, yet they continue to be presented to our young people as evidences for evolution?

[MorganMarvinson]

@ignatz1106 BTW, to answer your closing question--it's the moon.