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@baelliot Also do you happen to eat jello? marshmellows? both are animal by-products that most ppl do not realize. also brush your teeth? also belive there is animal by-products in tooth paste. but before ppl like you advocate what you guys think is right sit back and look at the bigger picture and take a look at what the agriculture industry does for the economy. but if you like living in a cardboard box on a street then maybe you should push to have agriculture shut down.
toysbrownswiss 2 days ago
@beaelliot maybe you should do your reasearch on your stuff before you say it. first off im a dairy farmer. cows are always the first thing on my mind and evn more so on the mind of larger herds bcause the have more to worry about. as soon as i wake up at 4:30 a.m. cows are the first thing i worry about. this isnt a job for any of us its a way of living. most dairy farmers keep for themselves less in one month than you probably make in one week.
toysbrownswiss 2 days ago
@CapeRabbit Cows are impregnated when they are in heat like most domestic animals. it is not forced and if it bothered them, you wold know it. they are 5 times your size. Calves are taken at early age because their immunity system is very vulnerable to disease so we make sure they have everything they need to stay alive. Calves are raised, bull calves are being sold to people who raise them for many purposes. the veal industry is depleting, which doesnt affect many of us.
johndeerekid623 4 days ago
What family members do you impregnate, steal and then slaughter the baby and then take the milk meant for that baby? What family member do you butcher and eat when they get 'too old?'
CapeRabbit 4 days ago
@celticfarmgirl I really think we've covered about every aspect and then some - If it's okay... Can we just agree to disagree. I'd just as soon stick to my plant foods. And advocating to others the pro's of it as much as I can. You of course can continue drinking your mammal's milk and eating of the flesh...
No hard feelings - It's just that neither you nor I will be swayed to another position and I'm sure there are other people you'd rather try to convince to so so... Same with me. ~peace~
beaelliott 5 days ago
@celticfarmgirl I've read the other of your comments - And as I mentioned to johndeerekid623 I am still holding my ground on not consuming anything that requires the eventual taking of life. I don't miss anything that "dairy" had to offer and as far as cost goes - When I factor in better health, peace of mind and a few coupons here and there the extra few pennies is well worth it.
beaelliott 5 days ago
@johndeerekid623 I'm sure of it sir... But I am still un"mooved" to purchase or consume dairy. I kind of like the idea of being "weaned" and there's nothing about the stuff that I miss. Thanks just the same - ~peace~
beaelliott 5 days ago
@beaelliott 5000+ cow dairy farms are some of the most efficient farms ive seen. there is no room for error and they have the most advanced technology in cow comfort and nutrition. milk producing industries are not about the money, one of the lowest paying jobs in the country.
johndeerekid623 5 days ago
@beaelliott The replacements are more expensive, and not all of us cannot afford to buy more expensive products. And it's not the slaughterhouse that would obtain the chemicals used for any of those products. A laboratory would.
celticfarmgirl 6 days ago
@beaelliott Horns: My goat never uses/d hers. for defense or anything other than scratching. WHich chan be done by bushes, brushes (those ones on street sweepers are LOVED by livestock), trees, fences, etc; Horns get stuck easily when they put their head in something they can't get out of: bushes, trees, fences, etc. They also cause unintentional injury, even when they're not fighting. wounds become infected, and cause issue. It's to both their safety and our safety to remove them.
celticfarmgirl 6 days ago