Fighting Cameron's BS Society

My take on the latest of David Cameron's plans for public sector 'reform' and selling off the welfare state, along with clips and news on the local anti-cuts movement, the June 30th strikes and a little visit to city council.
Enjoy.

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• bs
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• cuts
• june
• 30th
• strikes

[1978deus]

The political system is a joke. What's the point in voting if politicians have no intention of implementing any of the policies they propose before election? Tory, Labour, Lib Dem are all the same party. They just act as if they're opposed to each other.

[JackBrindelli]

@1978deus The problem is, with or without your consent the political system continues. With a vote in a liberal democracy, it's more about what you can prevent rather than what you can help create, which is no way to run things. I vote in order to keep the Tories, UKIP and BNP out of power, however I can't vote to create a socialist state, or to demolish the state all together and live in a land of anarcho-communism.

[1978deus]

@JackBrindelli It continues only because everyone lets it continue. Voting the lesser of two evils still means you support the system and are therefore part of the problem. Labour is no different from Tory - we've had Thatcherite governments for 30 years. Refusing to accept the system doesn't mean anarchy. Look how easily the truckers strike brought Britain to a standstill. The status quo has to be disrupted. Governments only listen when they are made to listen. Peaceful protests don't work.

[JackBrindelli]

@1978deus Well firstly I'm not using anarchy in a derogatory sense, secondly I never said I thought peaceful protest was enough on it's own, and thirdly I think it's naive to assume that by retracting support the system crumbles. There needs to be a mass movement to even slightly threaten it's stability, and whilst building that movement, refusing to participate only makes it easier for neo-liberals to bleed us dry in the hear and now.

[JackBrindelli]

@JackBrindelli Also whilst I agree that the Labour Party were Thatcherite, it's not true to say there is NO difference, the Tories are undeniably worse. They have gone about the cuts to public spending with glee, and are doing it far faster and more aggressively than the Labour Party would have.

Meanwhile I'm voting Green anyway.

[alexetches]

Goddamn Jimmy CATER! I think you will find Jack that I spelt no such word wrong... Wasn't me gov.

[JackBrindelli]

@alexetches Jimmy Cater, does he do food for weddings?

[hablerz]

They wont privatise the school system , people might end up leaving school educated ! In state schools they receive exactly the right education, the kids are totally politically unaware , shallow consumers in most cases or even chavs.

[GanjaStuPipesUp]

Once again Jack, I recommend you read David Icke's amazing book "And The Truth Shall Set You Free". Whether or not you think he's a nutter, what he's uncovered in this book is of vital importance to understanding why the system is so corrupt. It's designed to be that way.

Once people start to realise that we've been living in a one party state, very poorly disguised as a democracy, then maybe people will start to get angry.

"Conservative & Labour...you can have too much choice."

[1978deus]

@JackBrindelli That doesn't make Labour any better. It was easy for the Tories to make those cuts because Labour had amassed so much debt. They've essentially worked together to extract as much taxpayers money as possible.

[1978deus]

@JackBrindelli Your fear of what the "neo-liberals" might do is irrational because they're doing what they want anyway. Millions opposed the wars but of course they went ahead. The main point is that politicians aren't interested in staying in power because all parties are the same. They all pander to the rich. Why do you think Clegg could so easily turn 180 degrees on tuition fees? It's all a game. All the debates and differences on policy are just an act.

[JimmyMacJones]

It's been a while, Jack. I notice that your speaking skills have improved a lot since the last time I checked you out. I remember speculating that you plan on having a career in politics. It appears I was right. You are certainly a keen activist.