Re: disproving the Existence of the Eternal God

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[CoLegacy]

Interesting, would this mean god is both good and evil?

[vegrin]

@CoLegacy If god is all qualities then yes.

[rehndawg]

I'm a Diest and use common sense to treat others like you would want to be treated. Although a Deist I also visit a Catholic Church but I don't agree with their rules. I believe in Gay Rights..I believe Priests and Nuns should be allowed and encouraged to marry like during the Middle Ages. My wife is Catholic and does not belive in abortion and I side with her to make her feel comfortable but I'm for abortion and Euthenasia w/ Dignity for those suffering with irriversable illnesses.

[vegrin]

@rehndawg Hmm... My problem is that you force yourself to say the opposite of what you feel is right when it comes to abortion. Abortion is a pretty important issue world wide. Remember; the catholic church is knowingly spreading disinformation about condom use, sexual diseases and abortion. They work against family planning in the countries where they need it most. Perhaps you should try to make your wife understand you position?

[lake7less]

clear and honest video.

if there is nothing outside god, could it even perceive itself? I mean I can perceive my hands because they "end"; without finite form there would b no "mine" to perceive as my body.

So I think god would b the whole of reality, which would be a pretty lonely spot to occupy.

Consciousness could keep reality some company, a nagging one maybe but it would still help with the blues:))

Could consciousness b a stage in the evolution of matter? matter->life->consciousness->e­tc?

[vegrin]

If I was all there was, would I be able to know myself? You should look up Alan Watts if you havent already.

Consciousness an evolutionary stage? Evolution requires time. Time is a dimension like up or down, a direction if you will, and evolution is merely an arrow pointing along that direction. I think it might be a mistake to look at the universe as "evolving", as the universe taken as a whole also have contain ALL of time, from beginning to the end/ infinity, just as it contains all of space.

[sondano]

@philbox17 well but the universe is definitely not alive. Only a tiny tiny fraction of it is alive. So if God is alive he cannot possibly be the universe. For the opposite to be true you have to redefine the word alive. But then if it no longer means what it does today --namely the set of attributes necessary to make an entity like an eagle or a fox alive but not an entity like a table or an iPhone -- then what do you think it means?

[lake7less]

watts, I thought the name sounded familiar. I really loved his " way of zen".

I guess all of time and all of space would be "moving" inside the universe.

the 5 senses, then a basic perception of space, then time, then of the self, would "evolve" a consciousness obsessed with its mortality as it can "perceive death" in the time dimension.

The universe has a wonderful sense of humor if smth as messed up as a consciousness with a fetish for eternal life is the side effect of inanimate matter:)

[philbox17]

Great video! The best definition would be God is the Apha and the Omega. I respect people like you. Maybe you don't realize but you just give the best exemple of what is God or what we call God is. I believe God is the universe, God is just a word for what we can't explain but it is alive and have consciousness, in my opinion of course ...

[vegrin]

hmmm... Spiritual feelers. Like spiritual nerves...