Did Jesus Exist? - Responding to Zeitgeist - Part 4

From the series "Duped?", pastor Bruxy Cavey of The Meeting House, explores and cross-examines the validity and truth of the claims made in the internet movie Zeitgeist. This sermon, and the one following it ("Jesus: Christ or Copycat") both deal with copycat theories of the Christian religion. This sermon is in SIX PARTS, so please watch all of them to get the full story.

Also, you may check out this secular link debunking the claims of Zeitgeist: http://www.conspiracyscience.com/articles/zeitgeist/

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[alanhollinger]

@randomquirkyusername Jesus died in 32 or 33 A.D. Confusing to be sure!

[randomquirkyusername]

I'm a bit confused, I thought that A.D. meant after death, so wouldn't 17A.D be after Christ's ministry?

[pursuedrew9]

I once was blind.. then I watched zeitgeist, and became deaf as well. I lost my ability to even consider that jesus really existed. ZG is sold to the masses as their awakening, by informing people about the different methods of control that we volunteer ourselves for. Most of it is not debateable($,gov,fed). Thank you for shining light into the darkness. I needed to know this and I will research it on my own.

[Grambo4]

@craksracing0com

...recognize the fact that no serious historian, of any credible reputation denies that Jesus existed. Even liberal, agnostic historians and biblical critics like Bart Ehrman concede that Jesus HAD to have existed, because the evidence of history confirms that as fact. There is no historian worth his salt who does not concede the existence of Jesus, or the fact that He was crucified under Pontius Pilate. This isn't just a position of faith - it's a matter of history fact.

[Grambo4]

@craksracing0com

...He was and is the Son of God, yes, just as the first Christians believed, and just as Jesus Himself taught. But, as I have already described for you, this did not mean that Jesus wanted to get the kind of publicity we associate with world rulers of antiquity (Roman statues of Caesar, etc.). Not everyone was willing to recognize Him as the Son of God either: "He came to His own and his own people did not receive Him" (John 1:11). As important as all this is you should also...

[Grambo4]

@craksracing0com

...Also, for the first 300 or so years of Christianity, Christians were being hunted down, arrested, imprisoned, tortured and murdered: they were despised by other Jews, as well as the Pagan nations. We have evidence that the earliest Christians met secretly in homes and in caves - they certainly weren't going to set up a giant picture of Jesus outside their homes, even if for some reason they were willing to break the commandment of God....

[Grambo4]

@craksracing0com

...23, 25; 5:8; 27:15, you begin to see the unlikelihood of anyone rushing to paint Jesus' portrait, or carve a statue of Him. His earliest follower's would have been extremely reluctant to make any art of Jesus, to say the least. Furthermore, Jesus didn't come as a conquering King during His earthly ministry. He came as a humble, suffering servant. He made no campaign for an earthly kingdom/political party. So why should we expect Him to have statues of Himself everywhere?....

[Grambo4]

@craksracing0com

Well let's contextualize this: Jesus was a Jewish man, living in a thoroughly Jewish part of the world, speaking and ministering to an almost exclusively Jewish audience. When you consider the strict religious codes of this culture, namely the command "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth" (Exodus 20:4; cf. Leviticus 26:1; Deuteronomy 4:16....

[craksracing0com]

@Grambo4

"There are plenty of people from history who we can no existed though there was no art made of them when they were alive"

sure man, but this guy was supposed to be the son of a god...

[Grambo4]

@craksracing0com

...about the Sun. Winter Solstace / December 24th-25th Christmas, and the "3 Kings" are cultural impositions upon the birth of Christ which developed long after the Gospel's of the New Testament were written, and have nothing to do with what Christians actually believed and practised conerning the birth of Jesus. There have been many pagan influences on Christianity since its beginnings, but the Biblical record has nothing of them in it. Don't be duped by Zeitgeist's lies.