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[a1mint]

Trying to make a heater by converting electricity to hydrogen and then burning that hydrogen is a completely pointless exercise.

The natural law of the conservation of energy states that you can not create or destroy energy, only convert its form.

A $20 Walmart space heater converts exactly 100% of the electricity it uses to heat.

ANY heating device that runs on electricity is exactly 100% efficient.

Converting electricity to hydrogen and burning that is also exactly 100% efficient.

[a1mint]

@TheJimmax No hydrogen does not melt pistons. A hydrogen blow torch *can* melt metal, but under the conditions in an ICE, hydrogen will not melt pistons.

You wouldn't recognize research from a hole in the ground.

We'll leave the judgment as to how is "smart" to others. I'm not worried for a split second.

[a1mint]

@TheJimmax The judgment of who is ignorant here, is for others to decide. I'm not worried for a split second.

HHO heaters, lmao...

[TheJimmax]

@a1mintOh dear I seem to have bruised your ego.Its common knowlage that piston engines dont work well with hydrogen but if you want to keep your blinkers on I guess their is no point in trying to educate you any farther. Enjoy your igrorance and have a nice christmas.

[TheJimmax]

@a1mint Hydrogen melts pistons. Wankel engines dont seem to be affected. Dont ask me why do some research! Water pressure to the electrolyser fills the low pressure hydride tanks. Once again do some research. No I dont really think you work for an oil co. you dont seem that smart.

[a1mint]

@TheJimmax Heat development wise, a wankel engine is not much different from a piston based engine at all. There is no "overheating" - there are the cooling systems for that - and both require this just the same.

I'm not clear on how you are suggesting that hydrogen tanks get their hydrogen supply from.

Huh? "oil company"? You think that people from oil companies come online here and talk to you? That's really weird.

[TheJimmax]

@a1mintYes im aware that the wankel engine is also internal combustion but it does'nt suffer from overheating like the piston engine. The only storage required is the metal hydride tanks on board the car. They are refilled by on demand production and the fuel cell car is out of my price range because they cost about £100 000. Do you work for an oil company or are you just struggling to grasp this simple concept?

[a1mint]

@TheJimmax A wankel motor is also an ICE. Both are still inefficient. Running ICE on hydrogen is not the future. Electric motors are amazingly efficient.

Hydrogen ICE based cars are also out of your price range, because you don't have a hydrogen storage system.

[TheJimmax]

@a1mint No that is not what i had in mind. The wankel engine will run with hydrogen with little modification( see mazda hydrogen) and bmw ran a piston engine with hydrogen but im not sure how they pulled that one off (bmw hydrogen).I agree its not the most efficent method but its clean and its affordable but fuel cell cars are out of my price range and dont seem to be getting pushed forward.

[a1mint]

@TheJimmax Not so fast. I wouldn't call hydrogen "fuel". It is an energy carrier, not an energy source. I was talking about using wind energy to make hydrogen and burning that hydrogen inside a house for heating. I was not talking about cars.

About cars, there is another problem. An ICE is inefficient. You want to use a fuel cell to convert hydrogen to electricity and run an electric motor on it.

[TheJimmax]

@a1mint I am pushing to make this heard right now. It is allready here, metal hydride tanks exist and will come down in price, like every thing else, as demand grows. They only require a small amount of pressure to fill and hold a relitively huge amount of hydrogen. This is the fuel of the future and it is here right now. We need to make more noise!