#137 - HHO Games hall of shame

Some of the most laughable things I saw at the HHO Games. CLEARLY, we need a standards based organization to oversee this industry.

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[EnergySupply2008]

Direct quote from the Water4gas website:

"his friend's Chevy truck went from 15.02 MPG to 64.58 MPG - a whopping 430% better mileage"

No shame

[ZeroFossilFuel]

You know what? I sincerely hope that's true! If it is I will be the first to eat my words. BUT, which independent testing organization CONFIRMED this claim?

Anyone can make a claim. Reputable companies will allow those claims to be verified. Show me.

[EnergySupply2008]

By your response, it seems you may have misunderstood me. I was not challanging your Hall of Shame video, I was adding my two cents. I agree with you.

I should have been more careful with my wording. I should have said, the man behind Water4gas has no shame.

His spiral designs are a complete joke. How can he expect to be taken seriously with outrageous claims like that one? Rhetorical question.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

You're right. I thought you were defending those ridiculous claims. My bad. Sorry.

[ZS6JMP]

As I said, safety first. When it comes to selling a commercial product surely there should be a baseline for safety. The ''but'' is and most will agree, there should not be some government associated organisation which has a finger in the pie ie put a tax on it or try to suppress the technology.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Then I guess you also disapprove of organizations like Consumer Reports too? No one is going to tell you that you have to have your own projects certified as safe. But consumers to whom you sell your wares may want a second opinion. And, like it or not, they will get one.

[ZS6JMP]

Again I do not want a standards association to tell me what I can and cant and what they deem safe. Dont get me wrong, safety is first with this dangerous gas, but that puts the onus on the designer or builder to implement safety measures..

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Quite the opposite. The IHHOI is privately held, privately funded, as far removed from government as is humanly possible. And it will remain so.

[hhocar]

I met water4gas guy some 5 months ago in Los Angeles. His design was clearly not satisfactory from an engineering stand point. There were some other folks selling mayonnaise jars with the same set up as water4gas guy. His electronics was bought off internet, which was not even set up with his system. A total snake oil for which he claimed up to 60% efficiency. Now no one has yet come forward with a system that can work and make sense! I don't think any one of the participants are engineers...

[tddabernathy]

Todd(HighPerformanceFuelCells) The vehicle was roped off for safety so Jim and I could work. We will also rope off a Big Rig Truck at the games on Feruary 7 and do an installation. Once again, for safety, not to "Keep You From Seeing." I want people to see our cells, that is why we installed 3 times at the last show. Please come see us at Manatee Technical Institute, disregard the ignorant comments by Zero and his followers. We will display our cells on vehicles, a generator, and RC's.

[greenertommorow]

I have to agree with you Ozzie, I installed 3 of your glass cells in my 2002 Toyota Tundra 4.7 ltr V-8 and with no electronic enhancements or other changes of any kind still get a consistent 38% improvement in mpg. Easier to build than the cell zero installed in his Tundra which was my only reason for going that route. Didn't you get 20% on yours zero? Tundra's seem to do well with HHO. Thanks to Ozzie for getting me started and Thanks to Zero for continuing to push the envelope. :)

[greenertommorow]

Yeah, hee did take lots of photo's at the games. He took pics of my son at his seminar but I don't think that qualifies him as a spy or up to no good.