I run a small sameday transport business based alongside the M602 which I started myself after being made redundant in 2005. I never agreed with the CC in London and time has proved that, London is still as congested now as it was before the CC was introduced. Let the supporters go to London for a week and see for themselves how the CC has solved its problems and then come back to Manchester and vote yes!
Now we've just got to hope that enough people see the sense in voting NO and put this ill-conceived congestion charging bid behind us.
The question to ask then will be, how do we get the public transport improvements that we need (and I do believe we need them) without resorting to charging those who don't use the system for safety, practicality or any other reasons - and without giving £3billion of free money to First, Stagecoach, Serco and so on.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees the injustice... We've needed improvements for years, after having the rug pulled out from under us because our small "big bang" was "too expensive" (at the time London got something like 10 billion for ANOTHER underground line) they have the gall to blackmail us into congestion charging to qualify for the investment we've needed for so long.
I'm voting NO...
...taking it to Bury in person, I don't trust the post, they delivered my ballot to next door!
The cack-handed arsonist part gave me a good laugh.
No...
...no...
NO!!!!!
Just a few more days until we find out if common sense prevails - or if the mountains of money spent by First and Stagecoach advertising for a "YES" on billboards, full page ads and teams of people handing out propaganda - just so they get a PILE of free money.
I'm glad you're a NO, but you're mistaken about Jill Bloggs.
I've made nothing up other than the scenario (and that's based loosely on reality).
The charge ISN'T for driving into the city - it is for driving TOWARDS the city (in the AM)
Jill works in Bury and lives in Prestwich, which means she has to cross the outer charging ring on the way home from work, even though the jams don't start that far out.
She is punished with a fee because public transport doesn't provide for her.
I agree. You have no say on who you share public transport with. I caught a train into and out of the city centre last Friday. It was full of boozed up chavs looking to start something.
The Yes campaign miss the point about investment entirely.
This investment is long-overdue ALREADY. Charging people to use their cars in exchange for a commitment to invest in publice transport is nothing short of blackmail.
People are seeing through the lies and spin though.
The Mancs are not as daft as the manc council good on you mancs.Shop in Manchester there is no congestion charge and great shopping facilitys.
SAMJE123456 3 years ago
I run a small sameday transport business based alongside the M602 which I started myself after being made redundant in 2005. I never agreed with the CC in London and time has proved that, London is still as congested now as it was before the CC was introduced. Let the supporters go to London for a week and see for themselves how the CC has solved its problems and then come back to Manchester and vote yes!
Another tax on top of RFL and fuel duty.
I vote NO, NO, NO!
CCinlondondidntwork 3 years ago
No problem at all.
Now we've just got to hope that enough people see the sense in voting NO and put this ill-conceived congestion charging bid behind us.
The question to ask then will be, how do we get the public transport improvements that we need (and I do believe we need them) without resorting to charging those who don't use the system for safety, practicality or any other reasons - and without giving £3billion of free money to First, Stagecoach, Serco and so on.
thirteenfingers 3 years ago
Ahhh, thanks for clarifying.
delusion23 3 years ago
I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees the injustice... We've needed improvements for years, after having the rug pulled out from under us because our small "big bang" was "too expensive" (at the time London got something like 10 billion for ANOTHER underground line) they have the gall to blackmail us into congestion charging to qualify for the investment we've needed for so long.
I'm voting NO...
...taking it to Bury in person, I don't trust the post, they delivered my ballot to next door!
thirteenfingers 3 years ago
Hahaha.
Thanks for the post there LB.
The cack-handed arsonist part gave me a good laugh.
No...
...no...
NO!!!!!
Just a few more days until we find out if common sense prevails - or if the mountains of money spent by First and Stagecoach advertising for a "YES" on billboards, full page ads and teams of people handing out propaganda - just so they get a PILE of free money.
NO!!!
thirteenfingers 3 years ago
I'm glad you're a NO, but you're mistaken about Jill Bloggs.
I've made nothing up other than the scenario (and that's based loosely on reality).
The charge ISN'T for driving into the city - it is for driving TOWARDS the city (in the AM)
Jill works in Bury and lives in Prestwich, which means she has to cross the outer charging ring on the way home from work, even though the jams don't start that far out.
She is punished with a fee because public transport doesn't provide for her.
thirteenfingers 3 years ago
Actually Jill Bloggs wouldn't need to pay the charge as it only applies travelling INTO the city in the morning.
But hey, i'm voting NO on this thing anywho.
Just thought i'd show that the NO campaign makes stuff up awsell as the YES :P
delusion23 3 years ago
I agree. You have no say on who you share public transport with. I caught a train into and out of the city centre last Friday. It was full of boozed up chavs looking to start something.
The Yes campaign miss the point about investment entirely.
This investment is long-overdue ALREADY. Charging people to use their cars in exchange for a commitment to invest in publice transport is nothing short of blackmail.
People are seeing through the lies and spin though.
Vote NO... I have.
LebaneseBrit 3 years ago
Reviewthatcar has put a clip on Youtube where he tries unsuccessfully to burn a leaflet from the No campaign.
He has got to be the most cack-handed arsonist in Manchester (with far too much time on his hands.)
He has had so much ridicule and abuse that he disabled comments on his video...
Aw diddums!! Are the No campaign winning the argument?
Clearly they are.
LebaneseBrit 3 years ago