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Has anyone else noticed this? It's really starting to get to me...

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[chelsearen23]

one the other hand aithiests, ive always found seem equally set on converting those who are religious because in their eyes its a primative "fairy tale" (actually, you said that) what i find frustrating is everyone's lack of understanding. my focus has become connectivity in people, that we draw imaginary lines between each other see ourselves as seperate "machanical" parts, which to me, is primative. we cant blaim the religious, or glorify the athiests, or see them as seperate at all really..

[denito9474]

yes. La Grande Illusion = borders

[pyrrho314]

progress and rationalism are not dead, they merely have new definitions.

However, I think you don't realize how far behind our knowledge people really are. Have you notice that fallacies discovered and specified thousands of years ago still have common use in politics?

[chascoll]

I don't have much to say denito9474. But you obliviously don't live in America. A majority of Americans are crazy Christians and fundamentalist at that. I personally feel that Gorge Orwell was a genius ;) ScientificDiscussion dose make a good point though about the concept of "progress". Peace

[Zantorc]

At least one reason for the continuing debate between atheists and theists is the undue influence which theists have on politics in the US. The US is nothing like the UK or Europe in this regard. You can't get elected unless you profess religious belief. So I'm in favour of anything which undermines theistic influence - someone has to point out that the emperor has no clothes.

However I don't really understand what you're trying to say here.

[sarahj666666]

@denito (cont)

And then it does affect us.

How can we deal with the fact, that the probably most threatening danger of these days is due to a religious conflict ? Even if these are just misguided people, useful idiots so to speak, the only way to deal with it is by refuting the religion argument. Cause religion is based on unquestioning rulers, so religious people are perfect "useful idiots" to demagogues.

So I think, everyone should at least comment on stupid ideas and add a bit of reason.

[sarahj666666]

@denito

you are absolutely right - it is a waste of time to discuss such childish naive beliefs and we really do have other problems to solve on earth at the moment. However, many educated (scientists, but not limited to) seem to therefore leave the field and give it to the populistic idiots, who know how to feed the masses with religious opium. And then they make the rules. And then they start to educate our kids, tell us to shut up or even start wars in the name of their imagined god. (cont)

[sarahj666666]

@zuluhootchie

sorry, but I must ask you to look for and read the definition of what a "theory" is in science. I continue to read phrases like "but it is JUST a theory - not a fact". This word is used with two meanings and you seem to be referring to the colloquial, almost slang and non-educated meaning here. A "theory" is as far as you can get, and evolution seems to me as one of the more proven ones. For instance, compared to (say) string theory, evolution IS to be considered a proven fact.

[ArcaneInquisitor]

All I want to say here is that you can waste time debating this, I don't care.

But perhaps it might help to lay out some definitions here for everyone.

First, evolution is a fact, it is the mechanism which is a theory. Second, people seem to give little credit to what a theory is. It is not just an idea.

For something to be called a theory it requires ample evidence. To be a law requires an undeniable validity in reality. Most things in science, even if very correct ,are still theories.

[zuluhootchie]

would we agree to say then that evolution is a Religion taught in schools? its a theory that is not proven yet...

[josephwilliampeach]

Religion remains relevant to many people, and religions have enormous political power. Atheism may be standard in certain academic groupings, but reigion requires debate, because the religious are not a trivial minority.

[nicolaslevine]

So true! Britney deserves our atention.

[ineptgod]

Reasoning and human reason are not the same

Atheists and theists (myself) have the same fetish: satisfying a knee-jerk (often mutual)

I believe in the god of questions and my recreation is observation

[theCommenteer]

Postmodernism is so 1930's! Can't we talk about Britney?