Counter-Steering Tutorial: In Depth Look

As the title states... My apologies on the helmet showing in the video xD

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[NVDawg1]

SOOO, I should turn left before I want to turn right???? This makes no sense to me. I just move the bars left if I want to go left. I still don;t understand this concept.

[Iroquois14]

@NVDawg1 You don't understand the concept because you haven't ridden, or at least I'm assuming you haven't ridden. Just do this, get on a motorcycle or bicycle. How do you turn when at a speed greater than 10 mph? You don't turn the handlebars in the direction you want to go, you barely turn them in the opposite direction to create fall on one side. Once it starts falling, the bike leans over and turns.

[TheNightmareSequence]

Every video says, push right, turn right. Confusing as f***!!! I have concluded, if you want to turn left, a bit before the turn, you turn a little to the right first, then actually turn to the left so that the center of balance is leaning inward (toward the left) as you take the turn to compensate. The upper part of the bike and yourself will naturally want to go to the right due to centrifugal force, and this is how you keep your balance. Higher speed = more leaning in. Wrong?

[Iroquois14]

@TheNightmareSequence It's going to be hard for people who haven't ridden to wrap their minds around this concept. By pushing left, you are barely turning the tire to the right. That slight inbalance of the front tire going right causes the bike to fall to the left. When you are at speed and do this, it won't fall over, it will just initiate lean. But yes, more speed means you can lean more.

[ferrarithedude]

so when you push left you go left, i get that, but when your bike leans, do you then move the wheel into the corner? then when you come out straighten up?

[Iroquois14]

@ferrarithedude You initiate the bike into the corner and hold it with lean and then just naturally come up. I really cant explain it. You will understand once you ride.

[tucsondog]

Counter-steering will initiate a turn, leaning will allow you to maintain it.

[tyler16666]

@NVDawg1 Hmm, try checking out iamramekin's videos on counter steering. It's like this, if you want to go left....you push the left bar forward or not really turn just like apply pressure to the left bar like pulling it down which pulls the bike left. Same thing for the right bar, at least that's how i understand it. I don't ride, but that's what I think, sorry I can't be of more help...hope ramekins video helps you!

[NVDawg1]

Sooo, I am explaining to the Occifer that I meant to be turning left, but I was taught to turn right first before I try to turn left. Sorry, but he is not going to buy my story why I crashed into that other vehicle. Help me out here.

[YZ125Broski]

One of the things that confused me the most in my MSF class is when they told me "press right, go right. press left, go left." I went on to show them what that means to a lot of people, my instructor understood and agreed to a certain extent with my suggestion. For anybody having trouble understanding that concept, when they say press, it's almost a pulling motion, but imagine you are trying to pull the bar end to the pavement. Main point: press refers to a parallel motion, not perpendicular.

[TheNightmareSequence]

@Tremor123321 I understand the concept and the point some are trying to make, but yea. Turning the front wheels x axis to the left (pushing right hand) when moving forward means the rest must follow in the same direction, to the left. Compensating, or setting up position for the lean makes more sense. I noticed I was unintentionally turning right a bit just before my left turns to lean inward with the bike. You must lean to offset the centrifugal force by lowering the center of balance.

[Tremor123321]

@TheNightmareSequence WRONG!!!

The easiest way to explain counter steering, is to "experience" or "feel" it is...

Drive in a straight line on the left side of the road in second gear. Hold the handle bar with your right hand. Hold slightly with the left hand(for safety reasons) Now gently, VERY GENTLY, push slightly with your right hand. The bike will go to the right. Play around with the concept in straight line. Pull and push slightly with the right hand. Hope that helps.

[509Razoo]

Its not that hard people... If u wanna go left u push on ur left hand, if u wanna go to the right then u push on ur right hand

[Longboardmaestro]

pulling the handlebar up or towards you to initiate a countersteering?