The Case Against Spanking - A Freedomain Radio interview with Jordan Riak

But it is not a false dichotomy to say that any level of beating one's spouse = abuse? Why do children have fewer human rights simply because they are smaller & less capable of defending themselves?

This is just sad.

Humanist, all I have to offer you is that the psychological evidence says spanking is bad for the child. You and I both know that the resonsible thing for you to do is read some books to find out if I'm right or not. If I'm not you lose nothing! If I'm right you gain everything! It's your childs mental health at stake afterall.

All the books will also offer workable alternatives to violence and show examples of how they can be used.

I agree,and I have read parenting books. As a preventative measure,I do use the other methods (redirection, natural logical consequences, positive reinforcement, toddler-proofing, et al). Again,I have to point out the weakness of equating correlation w/causation (particular w/cancer). I also agree,children who are abused do have physical and psychological maladies related to the abuse. However, it is a false dichotomy to say any spanking = abuse. There are necessary limits to freedom in society.

I'm not interest if you respect the law . I'm interest of pratical ethics and empirical evidences. I don`t need to have children to read all the scientific studies that show how spanking affect children. I am a victim of this kind child "education" and see all the effect on me. Furthermore I see you that is clearing was abuse and lack empathy to yourself therefore you children. Your "point" doesn`t make any sens other then only show your own emotional baggages.

It clears that you are not ready to be the victim of your own teaching. Therefore you are making the case for rational ethic and not your own bigotry.

I don't have a problem with the law, you apparently do. Perhaps your parents should have spanked you and taught you respect for the rule of law at a microlevel you would have a clue to how it works in the real world at the macrolevel. If it wasn't for the law, do you think you would survive? Without a state there is noone to protect you and isn't it ironic that you threaten to call the law because intinctively you realize they're a necessary evil. I happen to live in a Constitutional Republic.

Yeah If law tell me to kill jews I should. I can`t believe retard like you have kids. They should make a law about it.

That's a stupid analogy. I think the dope you've been smoking has fried too many of what few brain cells you were born with. Maybe instead of dope you should get some testosterone and be a man. You should thank your lucky stars there is a government to enforce laws we can all agree upon to prevent me from taking your lunch money. Clearly you have no idea how to differentiate degrees. The religious right would be proud of your ability to stick to dogma that simply doesn't work in the real world.

You keep using the word practical and then you offer no examples of productive adults who were raised w/o spanking being an option on the table. Futhermore, there are plenty of studies that show that a child's view on authority is set by the age of 5. Furthermore, and this is where I draw the line you arrogant, self-righteous prick you have no idea how I am with my children so you can shut your piehole and stop projecting.