Philip Pullman - Secular Europe Campaign

JOIN THE MARCH FOR A SECULAR EUROPE
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Philip Pullman on secularism and the Secular Europe Campaign's 2011 march & rally on 17th September 2011 in London.

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[Burbridge92]

It would be lovely to see a separation of church and state in the United Kingdom, and also to rid the UK of it's current monarchial system which connects the Anglican church with the state. A true democracy? Yes please!

[LsBaba]

I'm an atheist but, as Philip Pullman said, it would be nice to see religious groups supporting the Secular Europe Campaign. Are any doing so?

[ramette99]

@TheStenerX atheists don't hate any gods, they just believe in them. And as for sin, that's a made up idea. Atheists are just as likely as any religious person to be good, or bad.

Atheists don't follow YOUR religion for the same reason YOU don't follow Islam, or any other religion. Why aren't you a Muslim? When you answer that, you'll see why atheists aren't convinced by the myths contained within the bible!

[Mattyb88ful]

@TheStenerX

"Dear me, you atheists are all in for one hell of a shock (and I do mean "hell") when you stand before God face to face at the end of your short lives."

When we stand before which god? The Muslim god? The Catholic conception of god? You see, as far as, e.g., Muslims are concerned, there are no differences between atheists and other non-Muslims. According to them, all non-Muslims are going to hell.

So, shut the fuck. Don't pick on atheists with your silly scare stories.

[learningcurveify]

While I agree with the separation of church and state the idea that religion should have no influence in politics would mean that politics would fail to properly meet the needs of those it has a responsibility to serve. As long as there are religious people in a country their views and opinions should be taken into account just as much and as equally as any others. The moment you have a government that ignores the religious beliefs of its people is the moment you have a biased government.

[TheStenerX]

Dear me, you atheists are all in for one hell of a shock (and I do mean "hell") when you stand before God face to face at the end of your short lives. The bottom line is this:Evidence for God is all around us (in creation, DNA, morals, historicity of Jesus,etc).Even if you had more evidence it still wouldn't be enough as you love your sin and hate God.That's the fallen nature you cling to and it will be your condemnation. There's still time to repent.Today is the day of salvation.Turn to Christ.

[DaboiaRusselli]

@jeneshisugakuto "I see on your page you're having a lot of trouble"

I didn't know I had a page!

[jeneshisugakuto]

@DaboiaRusselli It's so odd, that. The separation of church and state. You have separation but there's nothing that stops individual politicians "doing god". What I mean is in reference to what Tony Blair said, he said "we don't do god". In the UK it doesn't come through in politics as much as with the USA but we have the Lord Spiritual in the House of Lords. It's odd. I don't think you're aggressive either. hence the quotations ;) You just want your voice back.

[DaboiaRusselli]

@jeneshisugakuto Even though the US was the first country to enact legal separation of church & state, we have a lot of problems with religious extremists here who want to make their brand of Christianity the law of the land. All the Republican 2012 Presidential candidates are pandering to the religious far-right.

I don't think nonreligious Americans are aggressive, we're just sick of so-called "Christians" hating on us all the time.

Good luck to you & all of our European friends!

[jeneshisugakuto]

@DaboiaRusselli I see on your page you're having a lot of trouble. I know in the USA people are irreligious can be more "aggressive" and band together a bit more but it seems you need to be. So, that person saying atheism is a religion and the person who says we're brainwashed doesn't know how it is the UK. We often don't band together. We don't believe because we have our pagan roots debunking it for us. We had an early saint writing about goddess Eostre (pronounced Easter). Jul still exists.

[DaboiaRusselli]

@jeneshisugakuto It's true, the upper echelons of the RC hierarchy are really disconnected from the everyday needs of regular Catholics. The Curia has an overinflated view of its own importance. Nonetheless, our leaders actually pay attention to these guys (who apparently think themselves above civil law!).

[DaboiaRusselli]

There are some religious groups that have a history of supporting secularism, and secularist groups that originated with religious coalitions. Americans United for Separation of Church & State is one U.S.-based example (indeed, its leader is a Christian minister).

Unfortunately, today's theocratic extremists -- from fundamentalists to the RC hierarchy -- have been working to paint secularism as being opposed to freedom of religion. This is a lie and should be countered at every turn.