cheap hydro power?

using car parts to generate hydro power

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Science & Technology

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• hydro
• turbine
• water

[QUIX4U]

@Trippy518 has a very good valid point to make herte folks... yes - heavy "extra" weght is undesirable... (however there was a shortcut... oops wrong thought) NO - weight is not the issue - it's the FORCE of inertia he's being confused with - the "styarting" INERTIA required to start the added weight turning - ALSO KEEPS it turning... & is actually a desired thing ... as it "continues to HOLD the power generated - even if there is a bubble (no water) - or "irratic" water flows...

[josephdupont]

yes and no... the more weight the heavier bearings and more drag. I would use existing things to save money, because the cost per kilowatt of power is what your interested in.

if the water is free then the efficiency is not that important. However if the water is limited then efficiency comes into play.

thanks for your comments.

[Trippy518]

Ok I have done some Hydo power work. All of the idea's you have are workable but very very inefficient. All of the items you have listed are very heavy in weight and requires more power to move them. Thus when you use up power in the creating motion. That is power that is lost for making power. You need to look too using much lighter materials. One other thing is how far you are from the power you make. when dealing with DC power is becomes an issue with distance. DC is the easiest to creat.

[josephdupont]

the accelerating of heavy turbine only is an issue upon the first spool up.. once the the heavey turbine is turning it's weight has nothing to do with the energy required to

generate power.

[txe5502]

Hey, what about using torque converter turbines, they are basically francis turbines that are designed to use the same fluid in a circular flow instead of a constant stream. I am actually trying to come up with ideas of how I can build a housing for a torque converter turbine that I have right now so that it can be used for hydroelectric.

[josephdupont]

YOur probably right.. as I recall in some old manuels, you might have a great idea.

do you have one? you can cover it with fiberglass. but bearings might be a problem. do you have any pictures of same?? In any evant good thinking! That's what these are youtube are for.

[diancagv]

Rhank you for posting. I currently work for a Company that develops similar projects in Colombia. We actually were awarded for the adaptation of a Garman water Turbine, not because we were creating a super powerful source but because these turbines are highly scalable and can be used almost anywhere, our target populations are the small riverside villages in Latin America that have not large energy consumptions, these machines are enough and cheaper than PV, and easier for technology Transfer

[geordietoddy]

@acengineer4u I don't mean to sound like i'm putting a downer on ur ideas, I'm just a realist! and I wouldn't be here at all if I didn't think you were on the right track!

[geordietoddy]

@acengineer4u when you say "they have made a car using the tesla pump" , who are you referring to? Because I am pretty sure that tesla pumps actually use more energy than they produce.

and I said 'SPARE' parts, not cheap parts... maybe if I had a garage or a shed full of junk, then this could work with spare parts, but I think that most people don't have that 'luxury'...

[acengineer4u]

@geordietoddy you can buy the material or take a trip down the scrap yard! I tried to get some stainless steel for my electrodes and found it cheaper to buy a couple of stainless steel breadbins, flatten them out and hey presto!

I actually got some really good stainless for nothing and i am using the material from the breadbins for neutral plates...

I will find out soon what the conclusion will be!

They have made a car using the tesla pump where they use kevlar for the discs....

Pretty cool!

[geordietoddy]

@acengineer4u slightly more difficult to create from 'spare' parts though :S

[mikenator55]

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