Yes, I have done my research on this subject. Please see the post above where I mentioned how to get to the website with my sources, I believe it will answer some of your questions.
Also, you can read the foillowing:
The Business Week article on the subject published Dec 5 2008 titled 'Want Real Stimulus? Try Universal Health Care'
As well, the AMSA has put out a paper on the matter from their perspective, and it can be found on their site.
"Managed properly"? What does that mean exactly? Have you bothered to research how these programs have effected these countries economically? The US may be the only industrialized nation without universal healthcare (even though 60% of it is already run by our government), yet you're failing to acknowledge any of the failures when throwing your opinion into the hat.
Apparently youtube didn't like links in the comments, here's what to search on google for the first result to be the site I was wanting to link to containing detailed reports of countries healthcare systems:
"Healthcare Economist · Health Care Around the World: an introduction"
and
"Global Healthcare Information Network"
including the quotes, sorry for how that had to be brought across, but I feel these pages bring reference and context to the point I'm trying to make.
The US is the only industrialized nation that does not have a universal health care system. I'd say this is a fair amount of proof that universal health care systems work when they are managed properly.
Also, how can the US be the major player it needs to be in helping 3rd world country's that need health care aid, when it offers none to it's own citizens?
What you've failed to acknowledge in your support of government sponsored healthcare reform is that government spawned Medicare in the 60's and the HMO Act of the 70's have both failed miserably.
There is no evidence to suggest that a government sponsored healthcare program can ever be successful. The unintended, unforseen consequences are inevitable.
One of the reasons why it has become tougher is due to misperceptions about the presidents plans for reform.
Majorities in the poll believe the plans would give health insurance coverage to illegal immigrants; would lead to a government takeover of the health system; and would use taxpayer dollars to pay for women to have abortions — all claims that nonpartisan fact-checkers say are untrue about the legislation that has emerged so far from Congress.
Its great that the community is able to pull together like that, but unfortunately there are a large number of people in less savory communities, and those are the ones that I'm more worried about not having healthcare. A Federal Healthcare system would simply gaurantee that there is a program to care for those less fortunate. From what I've seen, anyone who's given money for 3rd world aid should also be in support of a Federal health care system of some kind, as it's the same principle of aid
Hi Shiladie! Seems I know you by another name. wink.
You are right to focus on the those who might be down on their luck as the purpose of this bill...however, I think that there are other ways to provide for those who don't have healthcare insurance. Fore example in our town we have a healthcare clinic for those in need and the community often steps up to the plate to help out with big medical costs. I think this provides a community care that is hard to duplicate with gov't. take care.
He doesn't take it because he SHOULD ALREADY HAVE IT!
Seriously, I don't know why a person would not want the health insurance that federal employees get.
foxh8er 1 year ago
this is at my school.
jmi49 2 years ago
Yes, I have done my research on this subject. Please see the post above where I mentioned how to get to the website with my sources, I believe it will answer some of your questions.
Also, you can read the foillowing:
The Business Week article on the subject published Dec 5 2008 titled 'Want Real Stimulus? Try Universal Health Care'
As well, the AMSA has put out a paper on the matter from their perspective, and it can be found on their site.
So yes, I've done my research, have you?
ShiladieSC 2 years ago
"Managed properly"? What does that mean exactly? Have you bothered to research how these programs have effected these countries economically? The US may be the only industrialized nation without universal healthcare (even though 60% of it is already run by our government), yet you're failing to acknowledge any of the failures when throwing your opinion into the hat.
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago
Apparently youtube didn't like links in the comments, here's what to search on google for the first result to be the site I was wanting to link to containing detailed reports of countries healthcare systems:
"Healthcare Economist · Health Care Around the World: an introduction"
and
"Global Healthcare Information Network"
including the quotes, sorry for how that had to be brought across, but I feel these pages bring reference and context to the point I'm trying to make.
ShiladieSC 2 years ago
The US is the only industrialized nation that does not have a universal health care system. I'd say this is a fair amount of proof that universal health care systems work when they are managed properly.
Also, how can the US be the major player it needs to be in helping 3rd world country's that need health care aid, when it offers none to it's own citizens?
ShiladieSC 2 years ago
What you've failed to acknowledge in your support of government sponsored healthcare reform is that government spawned Medicare in the 60's and the HMO Act of the 70's have both failed miserably.
There is no evidence to suggest that a government sponsored healthcare program can ever be successful. The unintended, unforseen consequences are inevitable.
How much more proof do you need?
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago
a quote that says a lot about the plan:
One of the reasons why it has become tougher is due to misperceptions about the presidents plans for reform.
Majorities in the poll believe the plans would give health insurance coverage to illegal immigrants; would lead to a government takeover of the health system; and would use taxpayer dollars to pay for women to have abortions — all claims that nonpartisan fact-checkers say are untrue about the legislation that has emerged so far from Congress.
ShiladieSC 2 years ago
Its great that the community is able to pull together like that, but unfortunately there are a large number of people in less savory communities, and those are the ones that I'm more worried about not having healthcare. A Federal Healthcare system would simply gaurantee that there is a program to care for those less fortunate. From what I've seen, anyone who's given money for 3rd world aid should also be in support of a Federal health care system of some kind, as it's the same principle of aid
ShiladieSC 2 years ago
Hi Shiladie! Seems I know you by another name. wink.
You are right to focus on the those who might be down on their luck as the purpose of this bill...however, I think that there are other ways to provide for those who don't have healthcare insurance. Fore example in our town we have a healthcare clinic for those in need and the community often steps up to the plate to help out with big medical costs. I think this provides a community care that is hard to duplicate with gov't. take care.
lpillman 2 years ago