Re: Should Questions Are Subjective

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[cdmcl3]

...seems my (protracted?) attention has confirmed several impressions about stresses and their concerted results, as expected....

[hofisito]

I concede that you don't need a God to have "good" or "evil" but you do need a God for you to believe you SHOULD do good and not evil. Without a God to model this... you're still left with emotivism. ie... that you do "good" just cuz you personally like it (not because you're obligated or should).

Occam's razor would still require God I think, cuz anything more "simple" doesn't fully explain "should" or "obligation"

[hofisito]

@PostITnoteGUY do you "really" feel obligated? cuz obligatio can only come from the idea of objective morality. You can't feel obligated to do something if you're a moral nihilist...

[hofisito]

not really... My intuitions about morals are far different than my subjective feelings towards ice cream.

for example...

When I intuit something wrong (like murder), I think that I am obligated to do something about it and stop it.

When I dislike something, I may try to avoid it, but this is NOT done out of obligation.

Now... you can believe we don't have obligations (but I think that's denying reality).

[Woootloops]

How do I know that I dislike chocolate icecream because I intuit an objective taste standard on icecream? I don't.

If you are to believe that you dislike suffering due to an objective intuition, then you better believe you dislike certain icecream flavors for the same reason.

[hofisito]

"I think suffering shouldn't happen because I dilike witnessing it."

How do you know that's the case?

How do you know that you think suffering shouldn't happen because you intuit an objective moral standard on suffering?

[Woootloops]

How does thinking something shouldn't happen necessitate objective truth value?

I think suffering shouldn't happen because I dislike witnessing it.

I dislike chocolate ice-cream but don't think people shouldn't eat it because witnessing someone eating chocolate isn't a dislike to me.

There is a difference between disliking suffering that you are experiencing, and disliking seeing suffering. Most people dislike seeing and feeling suffering, unlike with ice-cream.

[JasperAvi]

I'm saying it's irrelevant. The basis for out convictions are personal sentiments. Those sentiments, regardless of how strongly we feel convicted towards them, is irrelevant.

What is the argument for why we SHOULD do it?

[hofisito]

ok so idk if you're quite getting my point... if you like vanilla ice cream, does that mean you think that you SHOULD eat it? or does it mean that you think you WOULD eat it?