EXPLOSIVE: The Complete Lives System's 'QALY' POLICY
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The complete lives system and the QALY system are two separate systems. However, the complete lives system does take QALYs into account. Why are people are so opposed to these systems? Health care must be distributed somehow, and these are two ideas for how to do it. The shift of dollars away from the elderly and toward the young makes sense. Not only can we save more PEOPLE this way, but the people we save will gain more years of life. Would you prefer a system that saves FEWER people?!?
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Those of you who supported government-run healthcare, here it is. This is exactly what Obamacare will become. Be careful what you ask for.
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It seems we have a model for this system in some of the triage procedures that are followed in mass casualty and military continguencies. Citing these systems may make implementing the Complete Lives System more palatable. But, how many of you think that if the Complete Lives System is implemented it's rules will be enforced impartially?
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@dietsnapple89 Sorry but this is total bs. We have plenty of resources. No one ever said that healthcare in the U.S.is unlimitied as you deceptively tried to insinuate. By that standard, everything in the world is limited. We understand why we must respect healthcare and respect limitied resources on virutally everything. But it does not mean, because of the limited resources, that we need an "elder body" of gov't experts (i.e. death panels) to tell us how long we should live. Let people decide
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"Principles for Allocate Scarce Medical Interventions" Right. Because this administration is hell-bent on *making* them scarce Theyre deliberately destroying the existing system of health care and creating a new one based on biased, unsound theories and downright irresponsible research. The use a "resource allocation" chart that minimizes medical intervention after you turn 40. Even scarier they minimize healthcare to children under the age of 16 because of their "tiny contribution" to society.
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Obama said it clearly himself, this isn't about about how useful you are to society or your spirit, its about how many quality years you can actually live. Its not just the government telling you how much you're worth. If you wanted to include those criteria into a new healthcare rationing system then you would make it very subjective. The QALY system is very objective and quantitative. Unfortunately people think we have unlimited resources, but we don't. We must change the system somehow.
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Where sis you get the table from, can you send me a link??
Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel's Quality-Adjusted-Life-Years Complete Lives System NHS white papers found at The Lancet online medical journal. Register for free, pull up document (and others written by Ezekiel) entitled 'Principles for Allocating Scarce Medical Interventions'. Type 'Emanuel' in the 'search for' field, enter '2009' for the year and select Document number 5, Department of Ethics . This report is Vol. 373, No. 9661.
NeumaticSoul 2 years ago