Why Andy Serkis Deserves An Oscar Nomination For Rise of the Planet of the Apes
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If he's such a good actor, why is he hardly ever cast in standard acting parts that aren't motion capture?
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@MovieBlogTV most of the time producers don't really understand the proces LOL
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I can't seem to leave a link for the article, but you can find it on Yahoo! Movies.
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ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. Here's a great interview with Andy Serkis where he quotes: "With "Rise of the Planet of the Apes," the director was adamant that the performances were entirely copied muscle for muscle" when it came to Mr. Serkis' CGI 'costume'. If anyone is going to know better how the process was executed, it would be the people who worked on the actual movie. You will find references EVERYWHERE that the performance is ANDY SERKIS FIRST. The animator's job in expression is done for them.
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After nominating an animated movie for best picture this would be next step, I totally agree with you John, we will be seeing a lot of this in the future. I havent seen a lot of making of stuff from Rise of the planet o.t.a. but I watched a documentary about Avatar some time ago. the work they put behind it to transfer the actors performance onto the digital character is incredible and in the end the actor is still the driving force, so yes consider digital characters based on emotion capture.
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@satay71 Because Andy Serkis has been such an amazing actor working with digitally animated characters that he's barely been recognizable in other live action roles. Serkis plays digitally enhanced characters who look nothing like him and the mainstream audience normally wouldn't notice that. It could also be a form of typecasting because of Gollum but still, it's because mainstream audiences don't recognize him because he's quite literally disappearing into these digital characters on screen.
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He deserves a nomination hands down. He literally brought Cesar to life. He made me cry. His performance is beautiful and he should be praised for it. He should have been nominated for a Golden Globe as well. What a rip off. If you get the DVD, watch the special feature about his performance. Utterly amazing.
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The examples you use as comparison are actual performances, caught on film, in mocap situations it's not uncommon for entire shots to just be dropped and replaced with keyframe animation, which would mean that all the nuances and performance were created by an animator. He only deserves an award if 100% of the performance is his, which I can assure it's not, I doubt he even personally knows how much of his performance made it into final shots. The award should go to the team, not one person.
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@MovieBlogTV I think you're right about being open to nominating actors who are collaborating with what technology has to offer. Brad Pitt was nominated for his performance in Benjamin Button, wasn't that motion capture work as well? Maybe there needs to be a separate awards given in cases of technology advancing a performance. Yes, the primary force is the actors but don't the animators make adjustments to the performance after the acting has been done, compared to a make up artist before hand?
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@satay71 you have brilliant actors who's careers span over years, having portrayed numerous roles and have done so amazingly and beyond, yet they have NEVER been nominated for a single Oscar. Some notable examples being Gary Oldmen, Kevin Bacon, Steve Martin, Donald Sutherland, Richard Gere, Jim Carry, etc, Plus, some actors have only been nominated for an Oscar once in their entire careers So, figure it from there.
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@Sotnas This makes me think of the whole lead/supporting debarkle at the oscars that involved christian bale in THE FIGHTER. As John has said numerous times before, it eliminates the validity of the award itself. As in this case of Andy Serkis I would rather him not be nominated at all than be shunned into the best supporting actor category.
Animators do not JUST APPLY the digital costume - they ALTER THE PERFORMANCE.
I think John doesnt understand the process properly.
Like if you understand ;-)
ellykim79 2 months ago 18
@ellykim79 John spent years as a producer for a CG Animation and visual effects company... I think I understand the process better than most people. :)
MovieBlogTV 2 months ago
@MovieBlogTV If you/John(?) understand the process better than most you should be FAR less dismissive of all the work the animators put into the performance. You reduce their work down to simply someone who applys a digital costume but that would be a different department: you said you understood of the process?
Really what your doing is snubbing the animators work in EXACTLY the same way you say the Academy are snubbing Serkis. Think about it.
ellykim79 2 months ago 5
@ellykim79 Not at all. As someone who has worked in the VFX industry I have a massive appreciation for what they do. Please don't make the mistake of interpreting earned praise on one party as "snubbing" another. That's not how it works. As I said in the video, the primary force behind the performance was Serkis, and thus he deserves a nomination. That (true) statement take nothing away from what the VFX crew accomplished or their efforts.
MovieBlogTV 2 months ago
Hey John... are you going to do your top 10 of the year again?
IncliningPizza 2 months ago
@IncliningPizza Always
MovieBlogTV 2 months ago 2