PMQs: Brown Vs Cameron (09Dec09)
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"When I listen to him, mr speaker, it seems as if he's lost the art of communication, but not, alas, the gift of speach."
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You're voting to keep these fat cats in their cushty chairs whilst the poor STAY poor! So yeah, in a sense, Labour is the party of the poor. But they're actually MAKING it that way!
Because let's remember, without 'the poor', labour have no votes base! As soon as the poor become rich, they vote for a progressive party, not a party who's policies are keeping them stuck in a rut just to gain significant amounts of votes to keep smarmy bufoons like Harriet Harman on massive salaries
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Don't get me wrong, it's a nice little income to get for doing NOTHING, but the prospect of working to get more money isn't going to make you jump out of your armchair. Labour know this. They know their benefit system is actually KEEPING people poor. So all the better for them when election day comes round and people say "well, Labour have given us money for nothing, so I'm voting for them instead of those toffs!"
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....and who doesn't like FREE MONEY?? What would force one to change the habit of a lifetime by going out and having to actually EARN your money, when you get it on a plate? And eventually this benefits system becomes part of the culture, and the laziness is passed down generations. "My mum didn't work, so I'm going to sit on the DOLE too". Also, seeing as benefits don't earn you anywhere near as much as an actual job, you are NOT becoming wealthier or better off.
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Do you want to hear a really dirty, dirty secret about Labour? They need a base of votes. They have to identify with the 'poor' to secure a loyal voting base by making them SEEM like they are out for them and that the tories are toffs out for the rich, and their little benefits system giving out money for nothing 'shows' that they are 'out for the poor'. I put this to you. By encouraging the benefits culture, they are KEEPING people poor. People on benefits end up getting money for nothing...
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@THESTAFFIECHANNEL Also, you have just stereotyped me very wrongly. You have seen that I am a conservative, and just assumed that I am middle class!
I was brought up in a three bed semi in manchester, and have never been a supporter of the labour party... Although I will admit that I wouldn't call my self working class now, but my upbringing was.
And another thought... are you not teaching your children that they cannot do better than you did by teaching them that the class war is still alive??
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I think a congratulations are in order... you have taken a conversation about whether or not the labour party will swing back to the left, and turned it into a statement about the class war... Which, I feel I should tell you, has been over for decades. The middle and upper lass stopped fighting the class war decades ago.
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@mcconvillee Im working class and proud...And the day will come when my kids will be stomping on the heads of your kids...UP THE WORKING CLASS!
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@mcconvillee .Look only way Tories win is by fooling the working class that you care for them...You dont .You are the people that we want to punch in the nose.
You are our enemies , you have the media on your side but the day will come when my kids will be stomping on the heads of your kids.
Its gonna happen.CLASS WAR!
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@THESTAFFIECHANNEL i'll agree that if and when fox hunting is legalised, there will be a problem. but i can't see any party swinging off to the left again. Labour learnt it's lesson last time. In 79 it lost its first election to thatcher, and flew off to the left. It then didn't get elected again until it moved a lot more towards the centre. I'm a conservative, so I wouldn't mind labour flying off back left, it'll guarentee me an election win every time lol
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M-m-m-m-mimimister speaker....
inkstersco 2 years ago 6
There both crap!
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