Wretched: A dying man's last words.
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What words did I put in the man's mouth? Did you watch the vid? He is happy because his "god" gave him a terminal illness.
As far as proof of superstition being bad for society, No society based on superstition has even a fair track record on human rights. You can't point to a non-oppressive superstious government. History is proof.
joestfrancois 2 weeks ago
@joestfrancois "You spammed a very implausible personel story"
In essence, a lie. Paint it with whatever words you choose. You're calling it a lie. "Delusional" or otherwise.
"That man is acting as if he were given a gift of suffering." Putting words in his mouth. His faith, despite his suffering, is the gift. His suffering isn't.
What proof can you show in society, that what he's "promoting" is detrimental to society? On the contrary, faith has done much good.
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
@earthygreen said "But of course, since you can't handle a man praising God despite his pending death, you put words in his mouth that you can tear apart. "
What words did I put in his mouth? And I did not call you a liar, delusional, but not a liar.
You avoided my point again, this man is promoting somethig that is not good for mankind. That is my point.
joestfrancois 2 weeks ago
@joestfrancois Of course. Call me a liar or delusional b/c you cannot accept witness testimony. I didn't avoid anything. I DIRECTLY addressed your statement about him supposedly saying he was blessed with an illness, which *IS* a strawman b/c he didn't say that in the LEAST bit. But of course, since you can't handle a man praising God despite his pending death, you put words in his mouth that you can tear apart.
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
@earthygreen said, "The sinner with the greatest debt of sin to forgive, is often the most grateful to be forgiven."
Great. You spammed a very implausible personel story. You even threw in a "no true scotsmen." You are under a delusion. Demand evidence, accept reality. This "sin" you go on about is a made up idea. You do not need to be "saved" from anything.
You avoided my point again, this man is promoting somethig that is not good for mankind.
joestfrancois 2 weeks ago
@joestfrancois The sinner with the greatest debt of sin to forgive, is often the most grateful to be forgiven.
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
@joest ...something of a far-reaching and extreme reaction instead of my default setting. I feel offense when a struggling sinner is attacked by someone just as sinful. I used to be one who pointed out the weaknesses of others. The hypocrisy is grotesque. I can choose now. I can choose to be compassionate and forgiving. Or I can choose to be wicked and cruel. I didn't have a choice before. I couldn't find it in me to be compassionate.
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
@joestfrancois At one point I'd even considered going to school for psychology because I'd already learned so much.
Basically, for all my efforts and all my attempts. For all the knowledge I had gained. For all the work I did in trying to change who I was and how I thought.. I failed. Inexplicably failed. And one afternoon, and a short, heart-felt prayer for God to change me -- and I changed. I'm still not perfectly compassionate, but my acid for human frailties has become....
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
@joestfrancois I read self-help books. I saw counsers (christian and non) I began to know psychology just as well as the counselors. I'd offer what I thought of my attitude and mind-set and they'd nod and one even copied material out of his own professional text books for me to read b/c I was so well read in psychology. He said it may help to read something more in depth. It was incredibly informative -- but I didn't change.
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
@joestfrancois It wasn't a lightening strike, but I saw my reaction to the people in my life becoming patient. I had compassion. I am by nature NOT a compassionate person. I'm critical. I'm judgemental. I'm sour. But since that prayer... I've found a source of light within me that is accessable. I hadn't had that before. I don't claim to be the source of that light. I tried. For years. Literally, for *years*. If there was ever to be evidence of my attempts.....
earthygreen 2 weeks ago