The Oracle taking trance of KING DULDZIN at the Official Opening of Shar Gaden Monastery in Oct 2009

The Oracle taking trance of KING DULDZIN at the Official Opening of Shar Gaden Monastery in Oct 2009

This is peaceful Dorje Shugden (Dulzin) having taken trance in the Gameng Choyang Kuten in Shar Gaden Monastery's opening. All the monks and many people from around the world participated and also receive blessings from Dulzin. On this special occasion, Dulzin gave answers and prophecy to Shar Gaden and the abbot Ven Lobsang Pende sat and recorded everything by hand. The subtitle of this video is the translated version of the prohecy given at the time. The administrative monks, senior monks and high lamas often consult Shugden via the oracle in modern times and for the last 350 years. It is the step by step instructions Shugden gave to Shar Gaden from the begining that it formed in the first place. If Shugden did not give instructions via the oracle, Shar Gaden today would not have formed. Most likely for Serpom also as they consult their oracle (Panglung Kuten) who resides in Taiwan.

Interesting part, please see on this video 7:15 where Dulzin is blessing so many people and he pauses with one young monk. He throws blessed rice on his head, blows on his eyes, ears, face and crown of the head. To open the seeds of his imprints from previous incarnations. Also he gave him blessed rice to eat daily. This is how Dulzin (Shugden) is recognizing a young reincarnated Tulku from the crowd. The next procedure is the head monk(s) will ask Dulzin (not in this video) his reincarnated name, status and enthrone him. This was a spontaneous recognition where Dulzin gives special attention to this young undiscovered (till now) Tulku. Also oracles are created by Shugden himself on occasion in this manner and the blessings are similar. This could be a Tulku or oracle. Both are blessed in this manner we are informed by the monks.

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(from Ratna Shugden in dorjeshugden.com forum) I have typed out Dorje Shugden's prophecy to Shar Gaden Monastery as featured in the video, for the ease of reference for all who are here, enjoy!


Hri!
With karmas sowed and prayers made time and again;
kind masters and their scions rarer than the rarest;
This essence of the Dharma, the most profound of the profound;
Remember it's hard to meet these again and again as now,
That part of the Joyful Monastery of the eight joys,
Split of it into an east and a west;
If this separation has been motivated by the will
to accomplish that ultimate goal of the sacred Dharma -- Towards that aim of the vast Sangha assembly,
As divinities of a Mandala, or milk and water blending as one;
Accomplish this, and focus on hearing and contemplation.
To Strive towards this, in matters spiritual and temporal Seniors should guide, junior should comply,
as in the precepts;
of seniority among ranks in the administration,
Look at the layer, of feathers, on a bird -- If these are done, this and the future will be meaningful;
The required resources will increase as the summer sea;
Despair I have none in this,
If religion is on the lips, and politics in the heart, How can happiness both here and the future be possible?
That which is known as the 'Teaching' is the doorway To the ultimate objective, and towards benefit and joy of migratory sentient beings.
Not knowing this, not reflecting in this manner, with selfish aims
If the Dharma and the Sangha are impaired, I have no hesitation to command my hosts and Protectors of the Dharma to act
Contemplate this.

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[rasimoo999]

But light enlightens...I bid you the peace of Christ, the True Christ, one with the Father and the Holy Spirit-Christ of two Natures, Divine and Human, but one face,OMOUSIOS> THE ESSENCE OF EVERY RELIGION IS NOT THE SAME

islam is not as is Buddhisim is not as is.....The essence of True Christianity is the Truth of who Christ is, he is not a philosophy, He is both Fully Human and Fully Divine-He Is our Saviour and thus will Return as promised.

[rasimoo999]

But if He is, the Alpha and Omega, the One who is without beginning and without end, then there is TRUTH. Learn about True Christianity. You will not find it on the corner in a church of American origin. You will not find it in Rome, though it was once and for 1053 years there, but it is in Holy Orthodoxy. Read the Fathers, St. John of the ladder, Sts John Chysostom, Basil the great, Gregory of Nyssa. Visit Mt. Athos in cyberspace if you must, St Katherines in Sinai. My brother,demons deceive.

[rasimoo999]

So what you are saying is there is no ultimate truth, no Faith which is True faith and that believing in a rock, or demons or shamans or oracles or lack of oracles or whatever is somehow al "OK" if the final element is love? Therefore why Christ, either He is God Incarnate of a virgin becoming man so man might become God or he is not. If he is not then it does not matter how one gets to that "state of being."

[whitedoors401]

@rasimoo999 If you set out to seek fault, then faults you shall find. The essence of every religion is the same - compassion, love, wisdom - but the manifestation will be different. What suits you, won't suit me so it seems to me a better strategy is to seek a common understanding instead of passing judgement.

Let's follow the examples of the learned, practiced men of our respective religions and try to foster understanding amongst people, instead of creating or exacerbating divisions.

[whitedoors401]

@rasimoo999 perhaps insult was not *intended*, but insult could have been *perceived* when you came onto another religion's video and labelled it as demonic :)

You see, in the same light, Buddhists could also say that a clergy of men choosing God's representative on this earth (the Pope) means the representative is false, because he was chosen by men and not God himself...

[rasimoo999]

Please understand, there is no insult intended, indeed I am commanded to love, but love requires Truth, so trance possession is not a good thing. It is not a kindness in the heart, but actually a connection with the demonic.

[Marilyn1122]

Is there an English translation? Thank you for this video.

[Marilyn1122]

@wisdombeing Suffering is the basis of existence. Without obstacles, we would never learn how to transform posion into medicine.

[teknotoast]

@rasimoo999 Christianity and Buddhism are completely different religions. Buddhists do not call Christians Maras, I would hope that you could extend that same compassion towards us.

[rasimoo999]

This is plain and simple demonic possession. Trance oracles are Satanic inputs into human beings. No good come come from this