How can a handcam filmed situation be misleading? Were would you get 5 to 10 immigrants willing to pose as violent criminals? These are dangerous situations many of us have faced multiple times already. Many of them end up being filmed.
How can you claim that mainstram media is exaggerating, when the mainstream media does not even report about these racist hatecrimes?!
When you say "media is exaggerating", what are you referring to exactly?
@AtrumMixer "why do they return to their homecountry for vacation?" Jag vet inte varför men många flyktingar är t.ex. från Irak, om de flydde på grund av Saddam är det inte så konstigt om de kan åka tillbaka på semester nu när han är död och Irakkriget är över.
"Arbetskraftsinvandring talas det om varje dag."
Nja, en del av partierna i Alliansen, men de flesta är mot arbetskraftsinvandring eftersom vi bara ska släppa in på grund av humanitära skäl.
@AtrumMixer What happened to Fadime is horrible. Every politician/policymaker and the mainstream media agree that we need to deal harshly with this kind of "honor culture". But it is only represented by a minority within a minority of immigrants from a certain area. Again you are generalizing and judging everyone because of the actions/values of a few individuals.
@AtrumMixer It's hard to go against family or social norms in any culture. We are not completely segregated between ourselves, although economic differences (class) are growing again which is troubling. I have a pretty good idea about what our values are, and they include helping people in need.
@AtrumMixer See, now you are generalizing and talking about "them" as a single homogeneous group and you are demonizing that group by assigning them extremist ideas and values. No doubt there are some who oppress their women (just like some Swedes do) and some are religious fundamentalists (like some Swedes) and that's totally unacceptable no matter who it is. But it's not true for the majority of people.
@AtrumMixer "You can find thousands of clips here on youtube" Yes, and those clips are generally misleading if not entirely untrue.
Generally these videos show a handful bad guys (who happen to be immigrants) and claim this is common or that all immigrants are like that (unlike Europeans) which obviously is untrue. Youtube videos isn't reality.
Even mainstream media is exaggerating the situation since fear and disaster sells newspapers.
@AtrumMixer "that will cause the rest of Europes populations trouble, sometime in the future."
I don't believe we are deliberately importing anyone. As I've said many times, we only allow those who are fleeing for their lives (or from torture, etc, you get the idea) to stay here. Will it cause us problem, yes, a little problem in the short-term, but that is a comparably small sacrifice in order to save many thousand from death and torture.
@FrankLakai American army didn't invent a shit and Blue Colour was invented way before America even existed. And there where other armies before America with blue uniforms
@SMGJohn Respect to the American army who invented the blue color and place it on the army dresses, before the country even was born, when the rest of the world didn´t exist
@otangis
How can a handcam filmed situation be misleading? Were would you get 5 to 10 immigrants willing to pose as violent criminals? These are dangerous situations many of us have faced multiple times already. Many of them end up being filmed.
How can you claim that mainstram media is exaggerating, when the mainstream media does not even report about these racist hatecrimes?!
When you say "media is exaggerating", what are you referring to exactly?
AtrumMixer 1 week ago
@AtrumMixer "why do they return to their homecountry for vacation?" Jag vet inte varför men många flyktingar är t.ex. från Irak, om de flydde på grund av Saddam är det inte så konstigt om de kan åka tillbaka på semester nu när han är död och Irakkriget är över.
"Arbetskraftsinvandring talas det om varje dag."
Nja, en del av partierna i Alliansen, men de flesta är mot arbetskraftsinvandring eftersom vi bara ska släppa in på grund av humanitära skäl.
otangis 1 week ago
@otangis But if they are fleeing for their lives, why do they return to their homecountry for vacation?
"don't believe we are deliberately importing anyone"
Arbetskraftsinvandring talas det om varje dag.
"a little problem in the short-term, but that is a comparably small sacrifice"
Inte om de tar med sig sina problem hit. Small sacrifice. Du måste verkligen undersöka hur pass liten den uppoffringen idag har blivit.
Det låter nästan lite på dig som du tror dom kommer att åka hem igen?
AtrumMixer 1 week ago
@AtrumMixer What happened to Fadime is horrible. Every politician/policymaker and the mainstream media agree that we need to deal harshly with this kind of "honor culture". But it is only represented by a minority within a minority of immigrants from a certain area. Again you are generalizing and judging everyone because of the actions/values of a few individuals.
otangis 2 weeks ago
@AtrumMixer It's hard to go against family or social norms in any culture. We are not completely segregated between ourselves, although economic differences (class) are growing again which is troubling. I have a pretty good idea about what our values are, and they include helping people in need.
otangis 2 weeks ago
@AtrumMixer See, now you are generalizing and talking about "them" as a single homogeneous group and you are demonizing that group by assigning them extremist ideas and values. No doubt there are some who oppress their women (just like some Swedes do) and some are religious fundamentalists (like some Swedes) and that's totally unacceptable no matter who it is. But it's not true for the majority of people.
otangis 2 weeks ago
@AtrumMixer "You can find thousands of clips here on youtube" Yes, and those clips are generally misleading if not entirely untrue.
Generally these videos show a handful bad guys (who happen to be immigrants) and claim this is common or that all immigrants are like that (unlike Europeans) which obviously is untrue. Youtube videos isn't reality.
Even mainstream media is exaggerating the situation since fear and disaster sells newspapers.
otangis 2 weeks ago
@AtrumMixer "that will cause the rest of Europes populations trouble, sometime in the future."
I don't believe we are deliberately importing anyone. As I've said many times, we only allow those who are fleeing for their lives (or from torture, etc, you get the idea) to stay here. Will it cause us problem, yes, a little problem in the short-term, but that is a comparably small sacrifice in order to save many thousand from death and torture.
otangis 2 weeks ago
@FrankLakai American army didn't invent a shit and Blue Colour was invented way before America even existed. And there where other armies before America with blue uniforms
SMGJohn 2 weeks ago
@SMGJohn Respect to the American army who invented the blue color and place it on the army dresses, before the country even was born, when the rest of the world didn´t exist
FrankLakai 2 weeks ago