Law and Gospel confusion...
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Jew and Gentile were not the "same" until they were both God's people in Christ where the Law did not exist which separated them. Read Ephesians 2:11-16.
If you love your creedal traditions more than the truth, then serve your creedal traditions.
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@hetgow -After 25 yrs as an avid Evangelical, I can personally testify that it's Evangelical Christians who don't know the Gospel. A couple yrs ago I was challenged to concentrate on the simple Gospel message, - and to my shock, - I realized I didn't know what it was/is. Now I am learning what it isn't.Now, I'm unlearning yrs of bad doctrine and no teaching. Very hard.
The G is not Altar Calls, not a Born Again moment, not Tithing, not rejecting Tradition, not quoting Revelations, etc. etc.
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You might want to do some searching about the Rabbinical yoke and put this in context.
When Jesus was talking about the yoke it was that He would not put the law demands on His followers that other Rabbi's would.
Because of grace His yoke is light
Should never assume that just anyone is, or was, under the Law. See Romans 2:12-15 where you find that Gentiles were not under the Law, ever. There was no such thing as Law and Gospel or Law vs. Gospel for converted Gentiles. There was only the Gospel since they never ever were under the Law.
StringPlunker 1 month ago
@StringPlunker If Gentiles were never under the law, then why are they condemned? Why were they dying? Death reigned from the time of Adam till Moses, even over those who didn't commit sin, Romans chapter 5. Where death reigns, condemnation is ever present. You should know that.
waltherchemnitz 1 month ago
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You are told why: Romans 5:12ff. Adam, nor Noah, nor Abraham were under the Law. None of them were Jews or Israelites either. For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law; Rom 2:12.
Do you not see the contrast? The Jews were under the Law. The Gentiles were not.
Rom 6:14 does not apply to you. It applied to a Jew under the Law. See Rom 2:17; 3:8-9; 4:1; 7:1.
StringPlunker 1 month ago
@StringPlunker Roman 6:14 applies, BECAUSE the chapter is ABOUT baptism. Unless, of course, you think that baptism doesn't apply either. Be careful how you respond to that.
So, in your view, there are two ways of Salvation?
waltherchemnitz 1 month ago
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He is speaking to Jews who had been baptized. Having been baptized they are no longer under the Law. Paul has been addressing the Jewish segment of the church since chapter 2. See 2:17; 3:8-9; 4:1; 7:1.
Romans 6:14 refers to a Jew who is no longer under the Law.
StringPlunker 1 month ago
@StringPlunker Suit yourself. You're so certain you understand it, keep in mind how angry Paul got over the Galatians. There is no distinction, he meant it, and it's true. Jew, Gentile, all the same in God's economy.
If you have have anything else to add, let me respond in advance. Suit yourself.
waltherchemnitz 4 weeks ago