Race Rant

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these are the people I speak of...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iHr-vo-sRM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4PTKQVvefw

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• cristofer7

[Viktir666]

Cristopher7, you said "Well fuck you, we are thugs and you should be afraid".

Are you saying that you speak for all Blacks and that all blacks are "thugs" and want "whites to fear them" or was that statement part of the other thing you were speaking about with the ancient slaves that were lynched?

I agree with 100% of your other videos that I've seen but this one just had that one statement that surprised me about you.

Can you explain that statement that I quoted for us?

[Cristofer7]

"Can you explain that statement that I quoted for US?"

I like the imagined crowd you represent. I never presented myself as speaking for anyone but myself.

There are consequences for maginalizing a segment of the populace as villians, some will try to overcome that image, and some will embrace it, regardless of race or culture.

However, watch the vid again, you misunderstood. (if understanding is what you seek)

[Viktir666]

I asked for it to be explained so I have it down right. I agree with 100% of the other things you said in every video. Enlighten me.

I don't represent a crowd, your misplaced anger was uncalled for. Sarcasm is the cousin of anger.

I was merely asking you to clarify what you meant in the video. Don't get on the defensive, I was just trying to understand where you were coming from.

If you didn't mean that in a context of Blacks as villains - versus - Whites, you and I are cool. Right?

[Cristofer7]

Viktir666- that wasn't sarcasm. you are one person writing to me, but you called yourself an "us". You imagined yourself represented more than yourself. It was an observation.

The thing you are asking me to clarify is such a bizarre misunderstanding that it frustrates me that a person could get a thing so wrong. I don't need anger's cousin. I go straight to the source, and I am not ashamed of good old fashioned anger.

I will not clarify further. peace!

[leninlikersclone]

151 ratings and still 5 stars...

Can't say it surprises me. Fantastic video, Cristofer7. YouTube NEEDS more mature people like you.

[KitsuneCecil]

You're very brilliant. The stereotypes that fill this country are only made worse by the people that fit them, be them white, black, or mexican. I have no problem with any person, we are all human beings, but I do have problems with people that are "proud" of something like race, or sexuality, or something else that "diversifies" us. It does nothing but creates hatred for one another, especially between the black and white community. Fuck the stereotypes, like you said. Just be human.

[MrChestypuller1775]

if i was black i would prolly hate white ppl too

[Viktir666]

@TYFrankWhite Maybe we could rewrite laws with logic instead of religious ideas or hidden agendas? I'm mixed ethnicity so I have no side of the fence to sit on. I'm mainly White so that's what the world views me as. If I try to speak of my other heritages, people cover their ears and say "You're White in my opinion" and I'm shoved into that category. I suggest that most people get a DNA test before becoming racist, the results might make them feel stupid for wanting to hate in the first place!

[TYFrankWhite]

@Viktir666 You can't punish the slave masters, but the slave masters were the law givers. Thus you have to go through the law and see what was intended by these laws and if the enforcement of these laws are having desired effects. I'm not putting blame on you. I'm saying if you live or work here, you benefit however minutely. Just like I benefit from the land that was stolen from American Indians. These situations should be dealt with or the historical baggage and anger will remain.

[Viktir666]

@TYFrankWhite How can you punish the slave masters when they've died hundreds of years ago? I didn't do the crime, I'm not doing the time. What do you suggest that USA does about all of the Africans that were kidnapped? Because after you're done dealing with America for that, the indigenous Native Americans need to slap America for what was done to them also. I would also like a chance to slap America for what was done to me.

[TYFrankWhite]

@Viktir666 Your point is not lost on me. However, again I am having a slight reaction when you say African slavery was a long time ago. It's not because that isn't necessarily true but because statements like these are often made by people that seek to absolve anyone of responsibility to deal with the consequences of slavery.

[Viktir666]

@TYFrankWhite I never classify Black people as villains. African slavery was a long time ago and my ancestors had nothing to do with it. Our enemies were the Romans since 410 A.D. I just needed it spoken a little differently so I can understand what he meant. Where I'm from there were no Black slaves so sometimes I need explanations of what is meant when discussing slavery. I don't know if it's metaphor or literal sometimes.

[Viktir666]

@TYFrankWhite Thanks. I don't understand English sometimes if people don't speak literal. Now I see.

[TYFrankWhite]

@Viktir666 One further comment if you don't mind.

In your comment, you seemed to discuss slavery as if it were ancient. That's not true from neither a chronological perspective or a sociological point. But I digress.

The last part of his statement says to me that you (probably unintentionally) made the same mistake about classifying Black people as villains in misunderstanding his point that he was so adamant about here. And that may have persuaded him to end your conversation there.

[TYFrankWhite]

@Viktir666 Allow me to give you a few comments on the conversation between you two.

I think the overall point is how the relationship of power between Blacks and Whites still remains that White people are in a position to dehumanize Black people. Instead of trying to mend bridges, it's more simple to demonize people as thugs instead of seeking to understand their behavior. And thus the hatred continues.

He used himself as an example that not all Black people are thugs if that wasn't clear.

[Viktir666]

@TYFrankWhite Cristofer said "we" so I said "us" and he freaked out over my use of "us". I really don't want to argue with hypocrites so I dropped the subject. It's a shame because I agree on 99% of what he believes. I don't pay attention to him anymore, he's an angry man and I'm too busy to play "word games" with him. I guess he doesn't want to clarify things for someone who speaks English as a second language, better than most who use it as their first language. He can tantrum if he wants.