Concert at Saint-Ouen

A little bit of an organ and trumpet concert at the Abbatiale Saint-Ouen in Rouen, France.

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Music

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• concert
• music
• trumpet
• organ
• France
• Rouen

[FromHolbergsTime]

Heavenly interludes encompassed within a divine space.

[thonyus]

@Rankett16 Actually, in a few of the Symphonies (No. 6 movement 3 comes to mind), Widor calls for Anches and Cornets on all manuals. Generally, one would use cornets to boost the treble of the reed stops; even though the reeds are very treble-ascendent, the cornets are useful; we know how obsessed Cavaille Coll was with loud trebles, going so far as putting the top octaves on higher pressure; the cornets aid in this regard. When the higher octaves are not on higher pressure, this is more vital.

[Rankett16]

Thanks to all who responded, especially Goncourt. You brought up some good points about the way all organ styles in reality evolve: conserving what they valued in the existing work and adding new stops to realize new needs and concepts.

[goncourt49]

Rankett, the development of the French organ is additive. Baroque instruments contained a Renaissance core, and the late symphonic examples also include all the jeux which precede them. This is one of the considerations which led Cavaille-Coll to retain stops of older instruments which he remade or expanded - why, for example, discard a fine Cliquot ensemble when one must then only recreate it?

[organum74]

Yes, a good question. It is true that Couperin or Clérambault were forgotten at symphonic period, but Bach was still played, nevertheless, specially during services for Bach chorals, we can suppose that it was a sufficient reason.

[BeFrSc]

It was mainly to allow for performance of French Baroque, although it also gives composers variety so in that respect it is nice to have, the cornet on the Bombarde manual I understand is from the previous Cliquot Organ.

[Rankett16]

I am aware of the use of the Cornet in the French Baroque period; my question was why did Cavaillé-Coll include Cornets in his larger organs, as the registrations of the Romantic period did not normally call for Grands Jeux or Cornet solos. Was it to accomodate the playing of Baroque works, or was it merely an instance of conservatism on the part of the French, or did the composers C-C was building for actually specify the Cornet in their compositions?

[BeFrSc]

A Cornet is used as a solo voice as well as part of a Grand Jeu. It was mainly used in the Baroque and Classical era for solos to go with a trompette for example, the composer would normally indicate its use. Marchand, Clarembault, Corrette, Couperin all use it as a solo stop.

[Rankett16]

The Cornet V is ravishing, but it sounds a little out of place -- suddenly we're transported to the French Classical era. I'm glad the cornets are there in the larger C-C organs (they make an authentic Grand Jeu possible) but am a little puzzled as to the intended use, since neither Franck nor Widor called for it, as far as I know.

[willowthebored]

I love the Cornet Vs on this instrument...such pure sounds, a real treat. Can't say the same about the famous Contre Bombarde, though, I think it honestly sounds TOO loud and overpowers the rest of the organ.