Countdown: Worst Person Feb. 13, 2008
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There is no way Hawking can be mentioned as a comparison to that fat fuck Scalia. And as for the torture issue, let's put you torture-toters and give you a waterboarding; I bet we can get you to confess to the 911 attacks.
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this is why msnbc is a fucking joke
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Olbermann is an idiot. If you want to hear Scalia's full torture interview see:
watch?v=zDNkEsB6VzE
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lolbermann
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But the whole point is that there are not two classes of people: terrorists and non-terrorists. Taking away the civil liberties of violent muslim fanatics (probably what you mean by terrorists) will affect the civil liberties of future dissidents. HR1955 allows the government to broadly define the definition of terrorism. Combine that with a legal system where terrorists receive no due process, and it becomes easy to see potential abuses against citizens.
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I see your point, but I disagree that terrorists deserve the rights given in the constitution. Also, to say that by stripping away the rights of terrorists our rights might one day be stripped as well is a "slippery slope" argument that I don't subscribe to.
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Of course, when you phrase it in such simplistic, weighted terms its easy to deride. If you phrase it in terms of "upholding civil liberties" or "protecting the Constitution" or "maintaining our moral superiority" it doesn't sound so bad. If we consider that terrorists are still humans, and that the rights we give terrorists affect the rights all of us receive, it doesn't have to be so cut and dry.
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More rights for terrorists! Olbermann is my hero!
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Olberman vs. Scalia is like a five year old vs. Stephen Hawking. Olberman, you're way . . . way . . . way . . . out of your league on this one. You aren't even worthy to lick the dust off Scalia's feet. Get a life. Nobody likes you, but Janeane Garofolo.
urrybr 1 year ago 7
This is a blatant misunderstanding of Scalia's position...
Torture is not punishment, therefore it does not fall under the "cruel and unusual PUNISHMENT" clause, so it is not unconstitutional. That is Scalia's position as I understand it and it is obviously true.
He has also said he is against torture and thinks it is illegal for separate reasons...
kwalk30 1 year ago 2