(part 2) Tony Cecchine learned catch wrestling from Stanley Radwan. So all of them have a legit knowledge of catch wrestlling. And about Jake Shannon. He believes in the style and therefore wants to help popularise catch wrestling, via Billy Robinson. I guess Jake jimself is still learning the style from Robinson, but I'm sure he will progress by the years.
So whether you learn it from Cecchine or Robinsonn (RIP Gotch), you will learn the style anyway and properly.
in a response to all those discussions about whether Tony or Billy or someone else is a fraud or not, let's make it very clear and simple: Billy Riley's Snake Pit gymnasium has been considered legendary and n°1 in learning catch-as-catch-can style wrestling, during the past 20th century. Billy Robinson mastered the style in the Snake Pit. He was one of Billy Riley's students. The same goes for Karl Gotch. Lou Thesz learned catch wrestling from both Ad Santel and Strangler Lewis. (part 1)
I think if Lou Thez ever had the chance to watch a guy like CM Punk wrestle, he'd be proud of him and he might even pay Punk a lil of respect, because Punk is definitely a hooker in his own right and someone that can you in a lot of different ways if he wants to or if you get on his bad side.
@TNO73 my understanding that the difference is that a shooter can legitimitly wrestle and can beat you; the hooker knew dangerous, unknown and oft illegal moves like "hooking" the cartilage in your nose.
Not really sure what the difference between "hooking" & "shooting" are, but Thesz died in 2002 while Stu Hart died in 2003. Wouldn't Stu Hart been one of the people that could tell if someone was a hooker or shooter.
I also think Lou might be off. Just cuz they don't shoot or hook doesn't mean they can't. I would have to think that Stu Hart trained guys Bret & Benoit or a guy Kurt Angle must know how to conduct themselves if the need arose.
b7r7u7c7e With the exception of Bill Wicks, none of them has met Tony, AFIK. So again between Lou and these guys, Lou would have a better knowledge of Tony. Bill he knew Tony, Tony even arranged Bill's student to fight in pancrase. The guy lost by top wrist lock which Bill said only works for amateurs LOL!
R.I.P LOU THESZ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AndrewsOpinion15 3 weeks ago
(part 2) Tony Cecchine learned catch wrestling from Stanley Radwan. So all of them have a legit knowledge of catch wrestlling. And about Jake Shannon. He believes in the style and therefore wants to help popularise catch wrestling, via Billy Robinson. I guess Jake jimself is still learning the style from Robinson, but I'm sure he will progress by the years.
So whether you learn it from Cecchine or Robinsonn (RIP Gotch), you will learn the style anyway and properly.
verhoogje86 3 weeks ago
in a response to all those discussions about whether Tony or Billy or someone else is a fraud or not, let's make it very clear and simple: Billy Riley's Snake Pit gymnasium has been considered legendary and n°1 in learning catch-as-catch-can style wrestling, during the past 20th century. Billy Robinson mastered the style in the Snake Pit. He was one of Billy Riley's students. The same goes for Karl Gotch. Lou Thesz learned catch wrestling from both Ad Santel and Strangler Lewis. (part 1)
verhoogje86 3 weeks ago
I think if Lou Thez ever had the chance to watch a guy like CM Punk wrestle, he'd be proud of him and he might even pay Punk a lil of respect, because Punk is definitely a hooker in his own right and someone that can you in a lot of different ways if he wants to or if you get on his bad side.
lildwayne21 3 weeks ago
@spiderman351637 in my further quest for knowledge can you explain what exactly right would be?
Nertrender 2 months ago
the king the one and only!!!!!!!!!!! RIP:,(
i would have loved to have meet him and study with him n grapel a lil with him....
spiderman351637 2 months ago
@Nertrender u got it almost right but yeah thats pretty much it
spiderman351637 2 months ago
@TNO73 my understanding that the difference is that a shooter can legitimitly wrestle and can beat you; the hooker knew dangerous, unknown and oft illegal moves like "hooking" the cartilage in your nose.
Nertrender 4 months ago
Not really sure what the difference between "hooking" & "shooting" are, but Thesz died in 2002 while Stu Hart died in 2003. Wouldn't Stu Hart been one of the people that could tell if someone was a hooker or shooter.
I also think Lou might be off. Just cuz they don't shoot or hook doesn't mean they can't. I would have to think that Stu Hart trained guys Bret & Benoit or a guy Kurt Angle must know how to conduct themselves if the need arose.
TNO73 4 months ago
b7r7u7c7e With the exception of Bill Wicks, none of them has met Tony, AFIK. So again between Lou and these guys, Lou would have a better knowledge of Tony. Bill he knew Tony, Tony even arranged Bill's student to fight in pancrase. The guy lost by top wrist lock which Bill said only works for amateurs LOL!
amci06042 6 months ago