17/8 Seventeen Eight Drum Beat

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[SickyHamiltonTV]

Can someone please tell me how this is being counted in his head to come up with the number 17? I have tried to count this repeatedly and do not come up with that number.

[Jiveness]

@SickyHamiltonTV The beat repeats every time I've hit the ride bell 17 times.

[Jiveness]

@Drumtome Hmm, I guess you're right. When I play I really think of it as ending halfway through the 9th quarter note and then starting over, and I didn't think it was right to say 9(1/2)/4, so I just called it in eighth notes. That is at least how I count it in my head, as eighth notes.

It's weird, what kind of note to say things are subdivided by, because who's to say I'm not really doing this in 32nd notes, but at a really slow tempo? Anyway, thanks for the correction.

[Drumtome]

That sir, is 17/4. Not 8, because you aren't subdividing into eight notes, it is in quarter notes. Therefore, since it is carried in quarter notes, its either 34/8 or 17/4.

[HitmanJenkins1]

@Jiveness If other people do time sigs in such a way then that's perfectly fine by me to be honest, I prefer to divide them up.

[HitmanJenkins1]

@Jiveness 10/8 would not be silly, but 16/8 or above for example would be in my opinion, which is what I am talking about.

[Jiveness]

@HitmanJenkins1 Look up Matt Savage "Blues in 33/8." It might be easy to learn the drums as 7/8 7/8 5/16 etc., but for the sake of presentation it's easier to call something in its entirety. Also, trying to divide up a beat like 11/8 as a bar of 6 then a bar of 5 isn't necessarily the way the beat is divided up in terms of feel or the way it was written; you are presupposing the intent of the musician.

[Jiveness]

@HitmanJenkins1 Most professional musicians I've met and talked with count something in it's entirety as a riff. Otherwise you would just call everything as 1s, 2s, or 3s. Would would call 10/8 a silly time sig. because it can be reduced? It would be confusing learning a whole song in 3s and 4s. For example, no one counts Blue Rondo A la Turk as 2/16 2/16 2/16 3/16 2/16 2/16 2/16 3/16 etc, it's 9/8. It makes it easier to work w/ the whole beat counting the riff in its entirety.

[Jiveness]

@Jiveness Yes

[Jamsessionroom1337]

Meanwhile in bucketheadland...

[HitmanJenkins1]

@Drumtome But of course such a time signature would be silly. No sensible person goes double the value of the low number. It would rather be 3 bars of 4/4 followed by a bar of 5/4 if that was the case

[Jiveness]

@TrajektorieLogik Jase?