The seventh in a series of quick looks at biblical oddities.
The footprints of the Israelites' polytheistic history can still be seen in biblical texts.
There have been a number of questions in...
The seventh in a series of quick looks at biblical oddities.
The footprints of the Israelites' polytheistic history can still be seen in biblical texts.
There have been a number of questions in the comments about where one can find support for the claim that, e.g., Genesis 35:7 is properly translated into English as "the gods were revealed to him" or "the gods revealed themselves." Go to the following link: http://net.bible.org/verse.php?book=g... See the second footnote, which comments on the English-language translation "God had revealed himself." It states, in pertinent part, "Heb 'revealed themselves.' The verb ... translated 'revealed himself' is plural..." -- i.e., it should be "revealed themselves."
It's also worth noting what the Christian apologetic website Tektonics.org -- no friend of polytheism -- says the correct literal translation of Genesis 35:7 is: "Jacob built an altar at Luz 'and called the place El- bethel' 'because there ha-elohim WERE REVEALED [plural: nigl-u] unto him'" (emphasis added).
Note also what they suggest the proper literal translation of Genesis 20:13 (quoted in this video) is: Abraham said, "Elohim [gods] caused [plural: hith-u] me to wander from my father's house." The plural 'gods' and a plural verb in both cases. Link: http://www.tektonics.org/lp/monoelohi...
Thanks to AsheIsTheRaven for this encyclopedia article on the discoveries at Ugarit. The evidence all seems to point in the same direction: Israelite religious belief and practice was built, either in whole or in substantial part, on the foundation of Canaanite religious belief and practice (including, without limitation, the words, names, and titles used for the deity). Link:
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English is more Latin than any of those languages you list. If you know of a non-romance language more Latin than English, share. Old English was so altered they may just as well have changed the name of the language. If the Normans and Anglos had spoken to each other a little more at cocktail parties, you'd have a bona fide hybrid language.
@ProfMTH While polytheism is certainly one plausible explanation for the form "elohim", there are other alternative, just as convincing.
To give but one example, consider the English regal plural, as in: Queen Elizabeth: "We shall now retire to our quarters to blow some mud."
The fact that "eloha" and "elohim" are grammatically a singular/plural pair doesn't mean they can't be , in this special case, synonyms. True, it would be a linguistic peculiarity. So is "Measles".
Indeed. And I'm not saying that it can't be that in many case. What I've attempted to present here are the cases where I think the "royal We" business doesn't work.
When the word 'god' or 'gods' is used in the bible, it isn't always pointing at the "yahweh". Sometimes its used to point at the 'fake' gods of the other cultures. Nonetheless there's still alot of contradictions.
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A lot of people have wondered that. It's a vestige of Israelite religion's polytheistic and monolatrous roots.
To give but one example, consider the English regal plural, as in: Queen Elizabeth: "We shall now retire to our quarters to blow some mud."
The fact that "eloha" and "elohim" are grammatically a singular/plural pair doesn't mean they can't be , in this special case, synonyms. True, it would be a linguistic peculiarity. So is "Measles".
When the word 'god' or 'gods' is used in the bible, it isn't always pointing at the "yahweh".
Sometimes its used to point at the 'fake' gods of the other cultures.
Nonetheless there's still alot of contradictions.
Just to be clear, did you mean to refute what I presented here? If so, I'm not seeing it. Thanks.