REFUTING UNIVERSALISM 02- Revelation 20:10 (Forever & Ever)

"FOREVER AND EVER" (eis tous aiōnas tōn aiōnōn) in REVELATION 20:10

(Original Greek Taken From Westcott&Hort Greek Text.)


GALATIANS 1:5
eis tous aiōnas tōn aiōnōn
["to whom be the glory FOREVER AND EVER. Amen."]

PHILIPPIANS 4:20
eis tous aiōnas tōn aiōnōn
["To our God and Father be glory FOREVER AND EVER. Amen."]

1TIMOTHY 1:17
eis tous aiōnas tōn aiōnōn
["To the King of ages, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honour and glory FOREVER AND EVER. Amen."]

2TIMOTHY 4:18
eis tous aiōnas tōn aiōnōn
["To him be the glory FOREVER AND EVER. Amen."]

HEBREWS 13:21
eis tous aiōnas tōn aiōnōn
["Jesus Christ, to whom be glory FOREVER AND EVER. Amen."]

REVELATION 4:9
eis tous aiōnas tōn aiōnōn
["And whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to him who is seated on the throne, who lives FOREVER AND EVER..."]

REVELATION 4:10
eis tous aiōnas tōn aiōnōn
["the twenty-four elders fall down before him who is seated on the throne and worship him who lives FOREVER AND EVER."]

REVELATION 5:13 (+14)
eis tous aiōnas tōn aiōnōn
["To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might FOREVER AND EVER!"]

REVELATION 7:12
eis tous aiōnas tōn aiōnōn
["Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom and thanksgiving and honor and power and might be to our God FOREVER AND EVER! Amen."]

REVELATION 10:5-6
eis tous aiōnas tōn aiōnōn
["And the angel whom I saw standing on the sea and on the land raised his right hand to heaven and swore by Him who lives FOREVER AND EVER"]

REVELATION 11:15
eis tous aiōnas tōn aiōnōn
["The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign FOREVER AND EVER."]

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[kelleylemons]

this is good but you left out the most important verse in Rev 14:11 because it is specific to the ones that take the mark. Rev 20:10 just talks about the beast, false prophet and devil. They may still try to say only those three will be tormented

[doctorh2005]

@kelleylemons

Thanks for your comment. I did consider REV.14:11 but they may say "but thats the old manuscripts; the latest manuscripts contain only "forever" and not "forever and ever".

So despite their argument (which does not stand) I looked through the latest manuscripts and picked out those verses which CLEARLY say "forever AND EVER".

Although... REV.14:11 does still say there will be torment forever and ever - and the Universalists say there will be NO eternal torment for ANYBODY.

[kelleylemons]

Funny how they need to change so much in the Bible to "fit" their ideas. Words like believe, hell, saved, forever and even torment is not really torment. Yep getting closer to the one world religion...new age. Alice Bailey predicted the emergence of the universal church back in 1919. She worshipped lucifer and channeled many ascended masters. She also said there was no hell

[doctorh2005]

@101catsville

/// Feeling threatened doctorh2005? ///

Ad Hominem.

/// david1611kjv knows what he's talking about ///

Yes - he does know what what he's talking about is unscriptural, and that he's being irrational.

/// you and others like you just cant stand the fact that EVERYONE WILL BE SAVED! ///

Ad Hominem and Appeal to Emotion fallacy.

The question is not what people subjectively FEEL, but what Scripture OBJECTIVELY SAYS. And Scripture is against Universalism.

[doctorh2005]

To all youtube:

It is blatently obvious that youtube-user "david1611kjv" doesnt have the capacity or the maturity to engage in rational dialogue as all he has to support his Universalism is his own wild imagination, fallacious arguements, Ad Hominems, bogus websites created by people who dont even have half a brain between them, and his own biased man-centred "opinion".

Whereas, I have the Word of God, which clearly trumps all of his arguements put together.

Who is on the Lord's side???

[matmicmj]

PEACE

[doctorh2005]

@david1611kjv

/// Christ gave himself a randsom for all ///

You missed two important words that complete the jigsaw...

The Word says....for all "WHO BELIEVE" [in this lifetime alone].

This is therefore not a contradiction.

IN FACT..... REVELATION 5:9 proves that not "all" will ultimately be saved - for to "TAKE FROM" something, you are not taking the WHOLE

Comprenday?

You are the blind one - and a laughable one aswell.

[david1611kjv]

@doctorh2005 "Christ's atonement ransomed people for God "FROM" every tribe, and "FROM" every nation, and "FROM" every people and "FROM" every language.

Therefore, you are proved wrong."

on the contrary i will say this again and you really must look it up or you will continue to be blind.

a statement of fact is not a statement of limitation, Christ gave himself a randsom for all if you didnt notice, without the knowledge of fact and limitation quotes this is a clear contradiction cant you see?

[doctorh2005]

@david1611kjv

/// if we were such a joke then you could do it conclusively in one or two videos ///

I have - for your information, you have STILL yet to have given a Biblical answer for REVELATION 5:9 and ACTS 15:14.

Stop avoiding your biggest problems which decimate Universalism! :-)

REVELATION 5:9 says...

Christ's atonement ransomed people for God "FROM" every tribe, and "FROM" every nation, and "FROM" every people and "FROM" every language.

Therefore, you are proved wrong.