Are there any evolutionary advantages in rape and murder.avi

THIS VIDEO IS A VIDEORESPONSE TO MANNIX THE PIRATE.
Hi Mannix, the other day you told me in your blogtv that I should explain why I think rape and murder do not have an evolutionary advantage. So I made this response. I would like to include what I think about your Gengis Khan scenario but I didnt watch that video until I had already done this and frankly my knowledge about that data is incomplete. But if modern statistics tell us that 1 to 3 from every 1000 rape cases leads to pregnancy then I dont think the Gengis Khan scenario is viable at least in this days. It could exist a genetic trigger to rape like you said in your example of the vietnam war or that could be explained also as a particularity of mass behaviour. Similar behaviour happens on different groups under limit situations.
Anyway, even if I disagree with you on some subjects I respect your opinion, you made perfectly clear that this is not a morality issue. I have also read somewere about this subject and there is not a general consence over the evolutionary advantage of rape.
Well, sorry for the bad english and the late response. I'm not used to do this kind of things.

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[Tsicar]

'Does rape has [sic] an evolutionary advantage?' LOL!

Does that mean I can has cheezburger?

[nyarlotep]

@Tsicar Hi Tsicar, get confortable in my very empty and never visited channel. Please take of your shoes and sit on the comfy chair.

[nyarlotep]

@titianfairy Actually we did evolve from animals... we are animals. We belong to the animal kindom. That said, did Hitler survive by killing millions? did his actions lead him and his followers an advantage over the allies? No. He died in a bunker with his generals and most of the nazi leaders were hunted down on the following years which reinforce my previous statement. Humans are social animals and beneficial social traits lead us to success. We need cooperation and social skils, not murder.

[titianfairy]

@nyarlotep Yes, I understand the concept of being better suited to a specifc environment. Nevertheless, if I am evolved from an animal, who is do say that I do not have animal instincts? Or am not an animal? Moreover, can animals actually murder each other? If someone like Hitler was able to murder others in his environment, would that not mean that he was more suited to it (like a predator and prey)?

[nyarlotep]

@titianfairy No is not. You said it is justified by evolution because you dont understand how evolution works. Survival of the fittest is not about strong over weak but about who is better adapted to an specific enviroment. What we consider weak now could be the fittest of tomorrow. And this concept you use is even wronger in humans, being social animals our more well suited traits are the ones that improve over social skills. Killing and raping are against the BEST ADAPTATIONS in humans.

[titianfairy]

@nyarlotep I understand what you are saying about Hitler. However, such behavior is justified by evolution. If survival of the fittest is such an important concept, and we are all animals, then what is wrong with my killing someone that is weaker than me or that I feel is inferior to me if I feel that I will benefit from his death? After all, I was the stronger person. The weaker genes were eliminated; according to evolution, I have more right to reproduce.

[nyarlotep]

@titianfairy Hitler also believed that his "race" was an alien race that came from an ice moon that feel from the sky... He also believed he was doing the work of god by killing all the jews and that is textual from Mein Kampf. You can google it too ;)

Just because a stupid man that did not understood the theory did perverse things in its name does not mean the theory is bad. And when applied to humans our evolutionary traits most beneficial are social traits.

[titianfairy]

In Mein Kampf, Hitler used the German word for evolution (Entwicklung) many times, citing "lower human types." In his chapter entitled Nation and Race, he said, The stronger must dominate and not blend with the weaker, thus sacrificing his own greatness. Only the born weakling can view this as cruel... A few pages later, he said, "Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live."

[titianfairy]

One of the issues with evolution is that it justifies such behavior. If someone else is a lower life form than me, and I am an animal, wouldn't I be justified in doing away with them? Consider Hitler. Following quote is from "Hitler used Evolutionary Theory to Justify the Holocaust" It won't let me include the hyper link; you can google it.