Pandeism and Moral Issues: Abortion

This video addresses the pandeistic approach to the issue of abortion.

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[PanDeism]

@TheMuninn On this planet, probably about 2.5 to 3 billion years ago.... but all "life" is simply the expression of one entity transcending all things, so really it always has been and always will be.... when does the life of a bacteria begin, do you s'pose?

[TheMuninn]

@PanDeism Well what does life began?

[FIGHTFANNERD3]

makeing stuff up agian

Abortion is a good thing

[PanDeism]

....you propose to increase the power of government, and by championing the exercise of that power, to legitimize governmental coercion and violence against the individual.... but surely you know that governments are corrupt or corruptible, and the power you give them today may be used against you tomorrow.... if you wish to end a disapproved conduct, the solution is to convince your fellow men to scorn the doer of the act....

[PanDeism]

The possession of a unique genetic code does not render the possessor a "life" -- the zygote that unknowingly gets washed away in the woman's next menstrual cycle has a unique genetic code, but it can't be said to be alive (and with as many fetuses miscarried as born, are we going to create the possibility of all women who miscarry to be prosecuted for manslaughter, for whatever carelessness might have lead to the event.... but, more importantly....

[bj07bran7]

----" the moment that life begins"

This is not a belief. It is an objective, scientific fact that the zygote possesses it's own unique genetic code, separate from the mother's. It is also a fact that the zygote is human life.

When the zygote appears, life has appeared. Therefore, life begins at conception.

Abortion should be made illegal except in special cases of the survival of the mother. This can be done in a hospital as it will be rare.

The clinics should be demolished

[PanDeism]

That is exactly the problem, since "the moment that life begins" is itself a matter of belief, of which we can not impose ours on other people.... now, you can say that we can not accept that, and you and I are free to not accept that, to show scorn and disapproval to one who has done that -- but what else would you have us do? Assault the woman? Or the person who performs the procedure? Expand the power of government to do these things?

[bj07bran7]

No, she should not have the right to remove it from her body. It is human life. She does not own it simply because it is inside her womb.

From the moment of conception, human life begins. The zygote has its own unique genetic code.

[PanDeism]

There is a deeper and thornier question, one which also can not be taken too lightly.... there is no scientific consensus as to when the fetus becomes a separate life, and is no longer part of the mother's body -- whether the woman has the right to "kill" the fetus, surely a free society permits her the belief in the right to remove it from her body? It seems then that life begins at the moment it can be sustained outside the body of the carrier....

[bj07bran7]

I disagree...abortion should not be accepted in any form unless the physical survival of the mother is severely threatened, which should be determined by 3 medical doctors.

I think you take abortion far too lightly. You seem to give too much respect to the mother's judgment. She has a responsibility to take care of the human life that she brought into the world.

To suggest that she has some sort of say in whether it lives or dies presupposes that she "owns" the child