ROE vs xxxThePeachxxx & George Carlin

Confronting xxxThePeachxxx about her position on prostitution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89hT7HYRH6Y

From page 231 of Making Sex Work by Mary Lucille Sullivan "In 2001, the Attorney-General, Robert Hulls, set up a Street Prostitution Advisory Group (AGSPAG) to come up with strategies to contain the highly visible trade which continued to be focused in the St Kilda area in the City of Port Phillip. The AGSPAG in its Final Report confirmed that under the State's 'model' prostitution legislation, street prostitution had 'become significantly more prevalent' particularly ' in the past 15 years.' The number of women in the street trade had also risen, in contrast to men and transsexuals. A further finding was that violence and rape had increased in parallel with these rising numbers."

When the Victorian Labor Government first introduced legalised prostitution in 1984, there were 200 women involved in street prostitution, with 30 on the street in peak periods. Currently, the numbers range between 300 and 350 with 50 on the street at any given time. This equals a 100 to 150 percent increase over the last 20 years.

"On December 28, 2002, the Financial Post ran a front-page story about the Daily Planet, a brothel in Austrlia, going public...""...The company is debt free and projecting earning of $1.1 million per year. The owners expect that people will buy a minimum of $6.2 million worth of shares. The women who work at the Daily Planet are not employed by the brothel. They are considered free agents, and the hotel has little to no obligation to any of the women. The 150 women are free agents in an 18-room brothel."

So in 1984 you had 200 women in prostitution on the streets of Victoria. Today it's 350 on the streets with another 150 women in just ONE of the numerous legalized brothels.

"A 1997 New Zealand pilot health study of buyers' behaviour by sociologists Chetwynd and Reed revealed that male users take no initiatives for condom use. These results parallel the results of studies of behavior of men who purchase women int he Victorian sex industry, despite nearly two decades of legalisation. A 1998 repost by the MacFarlane Burnett Centre for Medical Research found there was a continuing reluctance by buyers not to use condoms. The researches concluded that one in five men have unsafe sex."

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[Bellybusterr]

And why isn't it legal to pay someone to work for 24 hours straight?

[rubbleofempires]

@Bellybusterr What differentiates a sweatshop from a regular factory?

[Bellybusterr]

@rubbleofempires A regular factory is strictly regulated.

[rubbleofempires]

@Bellybusterr What kinds of regulations do they have? Do they regulate working conditions? If so, How?

[rubbleofempires]

@architect333 Tell you what, go to a bar (if you're a dude go out to a gay bar) and announce, 'For the next 6 hours, I will let any man who wants to fuck me'. When you're done come back online and post about your experience. I reckon you'll be able to think of a couple ways it was worse than a day flipping burgers.

[wentshow]

Maybe things don't translate from Swedish very well, but that commission did not sound independent. Led by the Chancellor of Justice?

Why would anybody pay just to have someone stay up for 24 hours, you idiot. Unless you're trying to propose that exhaustion has a market value, or is a product? If an employer pays you to stay up for 24 hours, it's because he wants you to do something else in that time. So, it would be a stupid comparison to sex.

[architect333]

@NotADood "near homeless" comparisons,and childish conclusions based on your upbringing and environment is just one view of many.When I talk about sex work, it's desperate people looking to get a piece of the pie from those better off. Sex work is a side effect of many issues ranging from overpopulation to class based society. I've been around,IN THEIR SHOES, I would do it if I had a child to feed, offer hope. or to feed myself. "easier" is relative to circumstances.

[architect333]

@NotADood "near homeless" comparisons,and childish conclusions based on your upbringing and environment is just one view of many.When I talk about sex work, it's desperate people looking to get a piece of the pie from those better off. Sex work is a side effect of many issues ranging from overpopulation to class based society (oppression). I've been around,IN THEIR SHOES, I would do it if I had a child to feed, offer hope. or to feed myself. "easier" is relative to circumstances.

[NotADood]

@Joolsie68 And once they're in there, they have to convince themselves they're okay with it to make it through. People who talk about it like it's "any other job" obviously have no interest in informing themselves what the lives of prostituted people are actually like. Willful ignorance is the worst kind.

[NotADood]

@architect333 I've been broke to the point of near homelessness a couple points in my life and have never been tempted to take the "easier" route of sucking strange dick for money. How about yourself? You could do it as easily as anybody. If it's the easier path, why don't you your personal self go out to the high way rest stop men's rooms and make yourself some extra spending money?

[Joolsie68]

@NotADood architect has absolutely NO idea what he is talking about. Firstly he obviously has never been a prostitute and secondly he obviously does not know a sex worker personally. Women do not get into this industry because it is a great career choice they end up there mostly because they have had abusive childhoods. I've never met a sex worker who grew up nurtured. One more point I'd like to make is it is NOT easy money. The vast majority of men that visit brothels treat women appallingly.

[architect333]

@NotADood If it was easier, we wouldn't be in this situation, humans are more likely to take the "easier" path to make a living. But in reality, it's hard to create jobs for uneducated people(were in a modern scientific/tech world), or for those "weak" people (quickly breakdown physically or mentally doing labor), and to top it of, in an environment of poverty, lack of education or values and hope, resulting in crime and desperation all thanks to the greed, and overpopulation.

[NotADood]

@architect333 It's easier to give them other options and throw johns and pimps in jail.

[architect333]

@NotADood well it's easy you separate the issues, create laws and strict penalties for those contributing to victims, and allow those who simply don't go by classic christian culture, or victims of capitalism to choose how to make a living. Again I don't agree with it, but until we can constructively deal with the reality of inequality, were in no place to tell them how they should live.