HMS Victory Fires Full Broadside
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@wgibso Yes the USS Constitution did, mainly because it was a newer design and built out of something the Americans should be very grateful to have growing in their lands... LIVE OAK.. The Constition was one hell of a ship and Live Oak is a over 4 times TOUGHER than the White Oak the British and ideed most of Europe owned.. If we were lucky we'd get some parts of the ship rebuilt with teak, but Live Oak is absolutely astounding.
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Child of the seventies? You won't have to dig deep.
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@tattat44 maybe when I was a child - but I'm an adult now and can't always work out childish rants :)
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You'll figure it out, sooner or later. ;)
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all that metal and all the splinters...ouch!
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@tattat44 what are you going on about? lol
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Japs stuck it up them, One ship survived, the uss Pheonix, Conqueror got that piece of scrap.
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Yeah, maybe if you just hold the image of he white house in flames long enough, your little Euro problem will go away, and the queen will get her empire back and Diana will come out of hiding and tell us its all a laugh.
Then again, maybe not...
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Yes, we do realize that, thanks. If your point was that a ragtag militia couldn't have beaten the most powerful military on Earth without some help and a few serious distractions, then well played, sir.
It's ridiculous to say that we woudn't have our independence without the French, though. Eventually, we'd have worn the British down, just as almost all of the Crown's other possessions did.
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A frigate isn't a scout vessel. Most of the cruising and fighting in that era was done by frigates. And the HMS Guerrierre and HMS Java, both defeated by the USS Constitution before the first British naval victory of the war, were frigates as well, considered by their commanders to be near enough equal to the American frigates. That's why the English public was so shocked and discouraged by the Constitution's victories, until the HMS Shannon finally took the USS Chesapeake.
@lostferwords
New Orleans is the only counter Americans have when it comes to the War of 1812. Any war in which your president flees his home after promising to fight to the last, has his hats, clothes, valuables and love letters stolen for souvenirs by enemy troops, his dinner banquet eaten by said soldiers, and then suffers his house burned down is nothing less than a historical embarrassment to be mentioned as little as possible.
beastatlay 1 year ago 22
a frenchman just shit himself
rainhamendgill 1 year ago 9