Does God Have a "Wonderful Plan for Your Life"?

Does God have a "wonderful plan for your life"? Well, it depends on your definition of "wonderful". If you ask Joel Osteen, T.D. Jakes, Creflo Dollar or the majority of TBN, they may define "wonderful" in an exact oppiste way than how the saints spoken of in Foxe's Book of the Martyrs may. So what's your definition of "wonderful"? A "ministry" growing in numbers? A "ministry" with a large income? Is it doing it your way no matter what to glory in the spirit of narcissism or individualism? It may be, but if you were to find Paul the Apostle's definition, he may reply "suffering 39 lashes, prisons, and hardships all ...for the sake of God's elect." A true perspective changes everything.

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[Philos2006]

LaneCh: What I am saying is that there passages in the bible relating,rape,murder,plunder,s­lavery,adultery etc. without any word of condemnation.How can this ever be construed as the word of god? Peace !!

[LaneCh]

You didn't come to your conclusion from understanding the Bible. Here are a few verses from it:

He that strikes a man, so that he dies, shall be surely put to death. ... And he that strikes his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. And he that steals a man, and sells him, or if he is found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death. And he that curses his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.

(Exo 21:12,15-17)

[LaneCh]

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

(1Co 6:9-10)

There are many, many other verses that speak of condemnation for doing those things.

[LaneCh]

And the man that commits adultery with another man's wife, even he that commits adultery with his neighbor's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

(Lev 20:10)

[Philos2006]

And can you, what you quoted accept as the word of God ? I can`t; sorry. These are the words of a madman. Peace !!

[LaneCh]

Well, since you changed your argument halfway through from saying the Bible makes no mention of condemnation for committing unrighteousness to not believing the Bible is the word of God after being met with the fact that it does make mention of condemnation, you probably won't accept this either:

What agreement does a believer have with an infidel?

(2Cor. 6:15)

[danishka4jesus]

You know, I know this video has truth in it. I hope I never have to face the situation of being martyred or having my child or other loved one martyred but I know that we should always stand by our Lord no matter what challenges we face. The "prosperity gospel" is not part of the Bible and it's a selfish teaching for those with money. There's a reason Jesus said the rich man will not easily enter the Kingdom. The way is narrow and so is the gate.

[testnet]

The Christian life is only wonderful to someone who is already a christian. The non regenerate will never see trials as wonderful. We handle our hardship through understanding Christ is receiving glory thru our sufferings and that the reward is an eternal one.

Acts 5:41

"So they went on their way from the presence of the Council, rejoicing that they had been considered worthy to suffer shame for His name"

[abominableangel]

@PedroViaud but how do you not fear .. using the example of the 14 yr old boy at the end how do you not look upon your childs suffering when hes being beaten to a pulp and trust in God.. I am a mother and I could not bare to see my children tortured in such a way I would do anything to prevent their torment and eventual death .. yes we all die but why should I allow my childs death in such a circumstance when I could prevent it even if that meant offering up my own life in return for theres

[emilyvvylime]

Praise God for this video! Of course eternal life in Heaven is a wonderful gift and plan for those who believe, but when the church "sells" Jesus and His salvation plan like it is some feel good, get rich quick scheme...your life is going to have no bumps along the way, then the church is misrepresenting Jesus and the Gospel. People need to understand that they are sinners in need of a Savior, and that they have sinned before a righteous and Holy God...then true repentance will follow.

[PedroViaud]

Not in vain Jesus said not to fear those who can kill the body... I would rather be tortured than go to hell. Lord give us grace to withstand what is ahead in this life and may we live in peacefull felowship with you and one another

[k0smon]

@johnchang7 May I suggest that you investigate Joel Osteen's approach to Christianity. Or perhaps Carlton Pearson's gospel of inclusion. As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he. To learn the proper thoughts we must keep constantly in our 'hearts'; this can make a big difference in the outcomes of our lives.

[meangreen4321]

That last story of the interrogation was intense! Unbelieveable suffering!

[AJBluesman]

@johnchang7 Job was an upright man, holy, religious, and loved God. He was chosen as God wanted to develop an even more in-depth understanding and one on one relationship with him by not relying on self but depend on him entirely. Job gets the point in the end and glorifies God for everything. God himself has told us that in this life there will be troubles but we are to set our eyes on him alone, carry our crosses and follow him.

[CallCentre3294]

john - don't give up. Read Psalm 73. Part of it reads "For I envied the arrogant when I saw the prosperity of the wicked. They have no struggles; their bodies are healthy and strong. They are free from the burdens common to man; they are not plagued by human ills" but Asaph goes on to say "Whom have I in heaven but you? And earth has nothing I desire besides you. My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever". Also Romans 8:18-30 is great on this.

[johnchang7]

For the 10 years that I've been following God, about 8 1/2 years have been nothing but trials after trials. I'm tired of it. To me God just seems to be this distant being who only chooses certain people in this world to live a decent life and the others are just on the outskirts of life barely able to survive. Also people who don't even care about God will go on and be prosperous while Christians die of starvation. Yeah yeah God's ways are not my ways but his ways to me seem pretty messed up.