Steve Vai - True Temperament
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@hullan666 - and the answer is - no you can't - theoretically and practically if you tune an open string to perfect pitch - most of the notes down the neck will differ from a few to many cents om some notes. Just a fact. You're fine with it - and I'm fine with it. A digital synth can play in perfect pitch - but not a guitar.
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@jwandhistools But that wasn't part of the discussion here was it? What our human ears percieve... I'm not that picky myself so I don't care - and there are many tone deaf people who would say the guitar sounds just fine. But the discussion was around you saying "you can intonate your guitar to play perfectly in tune" -
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@hullan666 A "well known fact" as you see it. I can intonate mine just fine. Been doing it for over 35 years. Luthiers have been doing it for centuries. The human ear is not a lab scope, so no worries. Regular frets work fine. saying they don't is a lie.
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Sounds like some kind of sales pitch.
Yes, you can intonate your guitar to play perfectly in tune, if you know what you are doing. No idea why he is saying you can't. It's a lie.
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@guuiddoo you're right...he's even used it live a few times...made for him by Guild sometime in the nineties, if i remember correctly.
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@Guitareben If you have a well tuned guitar and you play high triads they WILL sound in tune. They may not be perfectly in tune, there is obviously a miniscule difference, but to an untrained ear it literally makes NO difference.
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@monsterborn12 You obviously have never played a guitar before. If you play chords high up the neck they sound very out of tune EVEN if you have your intonation at frets 12 and 24 perfect. I suggest you watch the Tommy Denander video on them... the chords high up all sound in tune!
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@Guitareben I have researched it and I know exactly what it does. The point is that unless you have a guitar with the shittiest strings, the sound difference is so miniscule that there is basically no point in using true temperament. Also it looks incredibly stupid.
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@monsterborn12 Yes I am. The formula determining where the frets go assumes that strings are perfect. Strings are not perfect. True temperament guitars = better intonation
(Also, it must be mentioned that a few of the TT necks have different temperaments:
Google - Well temperament)
try tuning a guitar (with a electric tuner) , then after you have all the open strings in tune check the tuning of say errrr 13th fret, or just any fret. it should , if i am correct, be out of tune, (the fretted notes should. slightly). true temperament elimanates this (i think) i might be wrong :)
Guitareben 2 years ago 4
@jwandhistools No you can't. Mathematically a guitar neck is made not to intonate properly. It's a well known fact
hullan666 2 days ago