"Let there be no misunderstanding at this point. The Arminian limits the atonement as certainly as does the Calvinist. The Calvinist limits the extent of it in that he says it does not apply to all persons (although as has already been shown, he believes that it is efficacious for the salvation of the large proportion of the human race); while the Arminian limits the power of it, for he says that in itself it does not actually save anybody. The Calvinist limits it quantitatively, but not qualitatively; the Arminian limits it qualitatively, but not quantitatively. For the Calvinist it is like a narrow bridge which goes all the way across the stream; for the Arminian it is like a great wide bridge which goes only half-way across...."
- Loraine Boettner
This clip from Amazing Grace: The History and Theology of Calvinism deals with the subject of the L, limited atonement.
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@jundurias
Everyone who believes in (that is, believes, has put their faith and trust in) Jesus Christ.
Keruaran 2 days ago
@Keruaran , Can you explain please who are those elect?
jundurias 2 days ago
Something needs to be made clear to Arminian's here. For that I'll quote D.A. Carson:
"Every view of the Atonement “limits” it in some way, save for the view of the unqualified universalist. For example, the Arminian limits the Atonement by regarding it as merely potential for everyone; the Calvinist regards the Atonement as definite and effective (i.e., those for whom Christ died will certainly be saved), but limits this effectiveness to the elect."
Keruaran 6 days ago
All means all and that's all that all means
Arguing the meaning of words only goes to show that weakness of their position.
domokunroxj00 1 month ago
all means all why you have to find a definition to that kind of word xd
boricua796 2 months ago
If i could sit in front of my computer everyday I would watch this video ALL the time.......No I wouldn't!!! It's figurative speech!! ;)
schoolisexpensive 4 months ago
To ARMINIANS -Romans 11:32 "for God has shut up all to unbelief, that he might have mercy on all".
To CALVINISTS -1 Timothy 4:10"for for this we both labour and are reproached, because we hope on the living God, who is Saviour of ALL MEN ESPECIALLY y of those believing."
DOUBTERS I Cor. 15:23-28"But every man in his own order:..For He must reign until He has put all enemies under His feet..last enemy...destroyed is DEATH... Son also Himself be subject unto Him..that God may be ALL IN ALL"
motibi 5 months ago
All of these brave but futile attempts to argue against the clear statements of Scripture:Jn. 3:16,1 Jn. 2:2,Rev. 22:17,1 Tim. 2:4, 2 Pet. 3:9).Of course "all" has other meanings than every person, BUT no Calvinist has shown that "all" means less than all in these texts above.They are not really engaging with the texts or their contexts, especially 1 Jn. 2:2.
searchthescriptures7 5 months ago
The "Truth" of the doctrines of TULIP can only revealed by the Holy Spirit and therefor cannot be taught by men. You can only teach when the students have the ability to understand and therefore any strong defense of the doctrines of TULIP against the ignorance of men is futile and causes the opposition to become more combative.
We share or tell the Gospel, we do not teach nor do we sustain it because that is the ministry of the Holy Spirit
JesusNonEnviromental 5 months ago