Moderator: Robert Siegel Speaking for the motion: Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, Paul Marshall and Asra Q. Nomani Speaking against the motion: Reza Aslan, Richard W. Bulliet and Edina Lekovic
well technically the caliphate was abolished in the 1920s.At that point the caliph had been a largely ceremonial title for over a millennia anyway. Yes islam means submission, but submission to allah not just to anyone who moves in front of your field of vision. Dictatorship is a major problem in the muslim world but that has much more to do with a variety of factors not least american support and intervention on behalf of said dictators
Dictatorship is the only accepted form of government in Islam, it is called the khalifate. Islam means submission. A muslim is one who submits to Allahs commands, his messenger mohammed and the khalif, the sussessor of Mohammed. A muslim must submit completely and without questioning to the religion and its authorities. It is no coincidence that islamic states have dictators as leaders. It is part of Islam.
@AMF4love Read the history of the region again, you will know what I say to have truth. Everything I said is true from a certain point of view. You are obvious very prejudiced, otherwise you would proclaim to know the truth about controversial historical events clearly lacking evidence either way.
btw i fogot to mention that u again fool ur self when u claim the Muslims Nations took part in WWll.. when u talk with educated people, u must have the proof for whatever u say because someone like me would not allow u to lie and get away with ur lies..
If u know what u r talkin about, go ahead and mention the Muslim nation-states that participated, as u proclaim, in WW ll..
Well ,i did not inslut u but u were making an absurd point, honeslty. Look, if you want to blame Muslims for the actions of few radical groups, I will blame u for ur hisotry of crimes agsinst humanity. Do u think being an American would make u less than those radical people?! Do u think people would appreciate ur crimes in Iraq against civilians?You have a balck histry of crimes which we can blame u for.. So, don`t cast a rock if u r house is made up of glass.. peace out..
@AMF4love First off, starting an argument with insult show your poor judgment. You know nothing about the American Indians. Muslims nations sided with the Axis power in WWII. Canada and Mexico didn't reverse territory for an indigenous nation, why single out America? I think you haven't thought this through at all. We fought Civil war and enacted civil rights on our accord. I'm proud of this country, USA. We lifted ourselves out of the darkness that engulfed the humanity.
But the fact is that Christians are today about 22 million of the population of the middle east. In Labanon, they are a major population alongside the other citizens from Labanon.
So, educate ur self before u open ur mouth and read about ur black history of crimes against humanity..
And Turkey...did he never hear about Kurdistan? OR bangladesh: Khelaphat-e-Majlis...they are not a Wahhabi Islamic group?
ThePaxTube 1 year ago
Lebanon is a sucessful democracy? That's news to me and the lebanese people who were in beirut...didn't something happen in...2006??
ThePaxTube 1 year ago
well technically the caliphate was abolished in the 1920s.At that point the caliph had been a largely ceremonial title for over a millennia anyway. Yes islam means submission, but submission to allah not just to anyone who moves in front of your field of vision. Dictatorship is a major problem in the muslim world but that has much more to do with a variety of factors not least american support and intervention on behalf of said dictators
Fisheyezor 1 year ago
Dictatorship is the only accepted form of government in Islam, it is called the khalifate. Islam means submission. A muslim is one who submits to Allahs commands, his messenger mohammed and the khalif, the sussessor of Mohammed. A muslim must submit completely and without questioning to the religion and its authorities. It is no coincidence that islamic states have dictators as leaders. It is part of Islam.
bhigr 1 year ago
it is very simple i said go ahead and name those nations to prove ur point.. :)
AMF4love 1 year ago
@AMF4love Read the history of the region again, you will know what I say to have truth. Everything I said is true from a certain point of view. You are obvious very prejudiced, otherwise you would proclaim to know the truth about controversial historical events clearly lacking evidence either way.
iMaDeMoN2012 1 year ago
@iMaDeMoN2012
btw i fogot to mention that u again fool ur self when u claim the Muslims Nations took part in WWll.. when u talk with educated people, u must have the proof for whatever u say because someone like me would not allow u to lie and get away with ur lies..
If u know what u r talkin about, go ahead and mention the Muslim nation-states that participated, as u proclaim, in WW ll..
AMF4love 1 year ago
@iMaDeMoN2012
Well ,i did not inslut u but u were making an absurd point, honeslty. Look, if you want to blame Muslims for the actions of few radical groups, I will blame u for ur hisotry of crimes agsinst humanity. Do u think being an American would make u less than those radical people?! Do u think people would appreciate ur crimes in Iraq against civilians?You have a balck histry of crimes which we can blame u for.. So, don`t cast a rock if u r house is made up of glass.. peace out..
AMF4love 1 year ago
@AMF4love First off, starting an argument with insult show your poor judgment. You know nothing about the American Indians. Muslims nations sided with the Axis power in WWII. Canada and Mexico didn't reverse territory for an indigenous nation, why single out America? I think you haven't thought this through at all. We fought Civil war and enacted civil rights on our accord. I'm proud of this country, USA. We lifted ourselves out of the darkness that engulfed the humanity.
iMaDeMoN2012 1 year ago
@iMaDeMoN2012
But the fact is that Christians are today about 22 million of the population of the middle east. In Labanon, they are a major population alongside the other citizens from Labanon.
So, educate ur self before u open ur mouth and read about ur black history of crimes against humanity..
AMF4love 1 year ago