PGFD Riverdale chief at small house fire.avi

If you listen, you can hear the chief order the people to stay out. There were 2 kids and a pregnet lady inside. You can hear the fireman questioning the orders of the fire chief. I think they were sued for not going in. I think this was about 10 years ago.

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[jaybob324]

In my personal opinion the fire conditions warranted an aggressive interior attack they already had a continuous water supply established; so there is no reason why they should've been ordered to perform exterior operations conservation of LIFE and property is what I was taught.

[maritimesailor99]

I'm a CT firefighter. That is one of the toughest calls to make, but I'd rather keep my guys alive rather then risking two more lives I have to save.

We cannot make the save every time, but we are concerned with Three Things:

Life Safety: Save who we can, when we can, but not risk our life when the signs tell us not to

Incident Stabilization: are we able to control what is going on with the resources we have at our disposal

Property Conservation: Save what we can, do the best for what we can't

[RunningSwimmingMan]

I don't know, and I wasn't there, but in the military, if there are people, that can possibly be saved, you go for it. The same way, the secret service would throw themselves in front of a bullet, to protect the president, that's what people, who are trained and equipped do...I am not a firefighter, nor can I say that it would have helped, but that's what they get paid for... The same way an E-1 used to get $500 a month to clean latrines in peacetime, and dodge bullets in war time.

[gggbbbh6]

@gotgank they werent home they were shopping

[gggbbbh6]

poor aunt nancy

[shvfd29]

o if you know wat really happend you would kno why he told them to stay out

[jacobeast1]

@AJBMP43 If that is how that scene looked on arrival then those people were already dead. Nothing without gear could have survived that kind of heat and smoke and nothing would've been gained by sending men in, however much they (and I if I was there) wanted to go in. Risk vs. reward. Now, if they had been on scene awhile and didn't go in before the conditions were what they are in the video, then that's a problem. The worst thing I see is opposing hoselines.

[mcfdtv]

@PoppaBlue59 They hit us good 2X and yes it was the Marine Barracks. Did not expect our fuel truck to do us in. As for not liking us. I figured they came after me the 2nd time as I refused to die in the 1st round. 

Thank you for serving.

[PoppaBlue59]

@mcfdtv Thank you for your service to our country, and I mean that. If you are talking about the '83 Marine barracks attack, I was stationed in GA. When that happened. I had just rotated back from Germany. They didn't like us there either.

Kc in Texas

[mcfdtv]

@PoppaBlue59 This video has been used in incident command class due to the vast controversy of the Chiefs orders and actions NOT the FF actions.

I was recovering from being blown up in Beirut and yes I still did S&R with a concussion and a total loss of hearing due to the blast. Thank God most of hearing has returned. I have 38 yrs on the job.