The Roman Catholic Mass. Is it in the Bible?

The Eucharist in Bible explained. bereanbeacon

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[kiwichristian2009]

Transubstantiation is a false doctrine because Jesus is not a liar: In Mt 26:29 after Jesus had said, "this is my blood" and prayed, he still referred to the contents as, "fruit of the vine". If transubstantiation of the juice into blood had occurred, as both Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches say it was at this time, then Jesus would never have referred to it as "fruit of the vine' but rather "blood"...

[kiwichristian2009]

@kiwichristian2009 ...This proves that when Jesus said "take eat & drink" he LITERALLY gave them bread and juice. In like manner, Paul also refers to the elements of the Lord's Supper as "eat this bread and drink the cup" in 1 Cor 11:26 after they should be transubstantiated.

[hockeyrulesus]

@kiwichristian2009

St Paul claims the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist, (1 Corinth 10:16) "The chalice of benediction which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? And the bread which we break, is it not the partaking of the body of the Lord? For we, being many, are one bread, one body: all that partake of one bread."

Did that answer your question?

[hockeyrulesus]

@kiwichristian2009 "Fruit of the vine" These words, by the account of Luke 22:18, were not spoken of the sacramental cup, but of the wine that was drunk with the paschal lamb. Though the sacramental cup might also be called the fruit of the vine, because it was consecrated from wine, and retains the likeness, and all the accidents or qualities of wine.

[kiwichristian2009]

Must Christ be continually sacrificed in the mass, or was His blood sacrifice on the cross 100% sufficient to pay for all our sins for ever? In John19:30 Jesus said, "IT IS FINISHED", which in the Greek is "Tetelestai" meaning "to make an END, to ACCOMPLISH, to COMPLETE something, not mearly to end it, but to bring it to perfection or its intended goal."

[hockeyrulesus]

@kiwichristian2009 Christ was sacrificed once, and eternal, and anyone can partake of it

[mpenaco]

@SorokChyetirye "Yes, we are men who keep Christ's Church alive."

I highly doubt that. Your church cannot even impose discipline on priests who molest helpless children according to the clear teachings of Scripture, how much more for keeping Christ's Church alive? If Christ will ask your church today "whatever you do to the least of these brothers of mine?" Will your child-molesting priests be able to say "yes Lord we take good care of them"?

[mpenaco]

@SorokChyetirye "But for 2000 years we've been teaching the same things the Apostles taught."

Really? Which apostle taught that Mary is immaculate? Which apostle taught that the pope is infallible when speaking about faith and morals? Which apostle taught that there is purgatory? Which apostle taught that we are to make graven images of saints to aid in worship?

[mpenaco]

@SorokChyetirye Sorry, but I think it is you who is showing your ignorance of Scripture. Christ specifically accused the Pharisees that they have replaced God's word with their traditions which Christ calls "traditions of men". "You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men." Mk. 7:8. Contrary to what you posted, the Pharisees followed their traditions but those are false traditions according to Christ.

[mpenaco]

@SorokChyetirye The problem is even a grade schooler understands what Psalm 51:5 means and what Romans 3:23 is saying without need for any interpretation. But you who profess to know church history refuses to accept the clear meaning of these passages. You want the Bible to say something else to fit your bogus tradition.