@matatan69 I know you're an idiot (who believes that Thomas Edison invented the light bulb, and that Wright invented the airplane) but I'll teach you. Notice: an historic facts need have documented proof. Where is the French language document signed by representatives of Wright, opening proceedings against Dumont (with day, month, year and number of procedure). I have documentary proof of "plagiarism" of Wright. And you? Where is your documented proof? Fuck you fag.
@matatan69 Are historical facts? Fine, then submit the documents in french the process against Dumont. What court, and which city, LCGdeNG filed suit against Dumont? What the number this procedural document? Submit documents signed by representatives of Wright filed Dumont court (with day, month and year). If you are historical facts (as you Alleged) will not be hard to present them. If not provide evidence, your story is fable. In this case, shoves his fables in the anus, american bastard.
@agente9009 Yep! and that is the reason the Wright Flyer is the true winner, time after time it flew in front of audiences in circles. up and down and for long periods of time. Europeans including Dumont were only making short Kangaroo like hops. Dumont used the Trick of illusion by short hopping along a downhill with a gradient or slope steeper than his falling speed. Wright only aircraft using windtunnel technology.
@agente9009 When it comes to his (Dumont's) HTAs, like his 14bis (which was designed and built by G.Voisin and R.E. Peltrie for him) lacked a propeller, airfoils, a control system, and the 14bis was designed based on the idea of "Inherit Stability", which proved out to be a failed concept. All can be confirmed by just a casual observation of available photos and film. Dumont's next machine, (his model 15), its wings were glued flat veneer panels, but it fell apart when Dumont attempted to taxi!
@agente9009 What's really ironic, is that of all the active aviator members of the ACdeF, between 1904 and 1908, Dumont was actually one of the "least" successful. Leon Delagrange, Louis Bleriot, Leon Levasseur, Robert Esnault-Peltrie, and Henri Farman (working with Gabriel Voisin) were "ALL" far more successful than Dumont, with Henri Farman leading the lot. Henri Farman was also the first in France, with his Farman-Voisin biplane, to fly a circle (11Jan,1908).
@agente9009 early 1910, Dumont announced his retirement from all aviation activities, so the LCGdeNG dropped Dumont's name from their lawsuit. Peltrie, Bleriot, and Levasseur settled out of court, as all agreed to pay royalties to the LCGdeNG, for use of the Wright's patents, so the case never made it to court.
The French manufacturer of the Demoiselle, held a use license for the Wright's Patents and their 30hp Engine,but after a year they only sold 15 of the 50 Demoiselles they had built.
@matatan69 Americans are very cynical. They say Dumont copied the Flyer. Where are the documentary evidence of this? By chance was Dumont that asked in letter the design of Flyer to Ferber? No, we have documented proof (letter written by Wright's own) the bad character of Wright. In summary, blatant espionage. You Americans try to reverse the roles, but here the thieves are the Wright.
14 Bis airplane first invented in the world and end this shit!
voucan12 5 months ago
@matatan69 I know you're an idiot (who believes that Thomas Edison invented the light bulb, and that Wright invented the airplane) but I'll teach you. Notice: an historic facts need have documented proof. Where is the French language document signed by representatives of Wright, opening proceedings against Dumont (with day, month, year and number of procedure). I have documentary proof of "plagiarism" of Wright. And you? Where is your documented proof? Fuck you fag.
agente9009 1 year ago
@matatan69 Are historical facts? Fine, then submit the documents in french the process against Dumont. What court, and which city, LCGdeNG filed suit against Dumont? What the number this procedural document? Submit documents signed by representatives of Wright filed Dumont court (with day, month and year). If you are historical facts (as you Alleged) will not be hard to present them. If not provide evidence, your story is fable. In this case, shoves his fables in the anus, american bastard.
agente9009 1 year ago
@agente9009 Yep! and that is the reason the Wright Flyer is the true winner, time after time it flew in front of audiences in circles. up and down and for long periods of time. Europeans including Dumont were only making short Kangaroo like hops. Dumont used the Trick of illusion by short hopping along a downhill with a gradient or slope steeper than his falling speed. Wright only aircraft using windtunnel technology.
matatan69 1 year ago
@agente9009 That Ferbes letter is another Fabel of the Dumontians.
matatan69 1 year ago
@agente9009 When it comes to his (Dumont's) HTAs, like his 14bis (which was designed and built by G.Voisin and R.E. Peltrie for him) lacked a propeller, airfoils, a control system, and the 14bis was designed based on the idea of "Inherit Stability", which proved out to be a failed concept. All can be confirmed by just a casual observation of available photos and film. Dumont's next machine, (his model 15), its wings were glued flat veneer panels, but it fell apart when Dumont attempted to taxi!
matatan69 1 year ago
@agente9009 What's really ironic, is that of all the active aviator members of the ACdeF, between 1904 and 1908, Dumont was actually one of the "least" successful. Leon Delagrange, Louis Bleriot, Leon Levasseur, Robert Esnault-Peltrie, and Henri Farman (working with Gabriel Voisin) were "ALL" far more successful than Dumont, with Henri Farman leading the lot. Henri Farman was also the first in France, with his Farman-Voisin biplane, to fly a circle (11Jan,1908).
matatan69 1 year ago
@agente9009 early 1910, Dumont announced his retirement from all aviation activities, so the LCGdeNG dropped Dumont's name from their lawsuit. Peltrie, Bleriot, and Levasseur settled out of court, as all agreed to pay royalties to the LCGdeNG, for use of the Wright's patents, so the case never made it to court.
The French manufacturer of the Demoiselle, held a use license for the Wright's Patents and their 30hp Engine,but after a year they only sold 15 of the 50 Demoiselles they had built.
matatan69 1 year ago
@agente9009 .Dumont's first "official" (FAI) flight occurred on 13Feb, 1909, but only
after he had illegally installed the "patented" technology of the Wright brothers. (USP #821,393).
After Dumont showed up with his model 21 Demoiselle at the Aug,1909 Rheims Air Race&Show at Rheims,
France, the LCGdeNG (French license holders of the Wright's patents) filed in court on Dumont, Peltrie,
Lavasseur, and Bleriot for their blatant violation of their patent license. FActs of history!!
matatan69 1 year ago
@matatan69 Americans are very cynical. They say Dumont copied the Flyer. Where are the documentary evidence of this? By chance was Dumont that asked in letter the design of Flyer to Ferber? No, we have documented proof (letter written by Wright's own) the bad character of Wright. In summary, blatant espionage. You Americans try to reverse the roles, but here the thieves are the Wright.
agente9009 1 year ago