BAC TSR2: The Ultimate Royal Air Force Dream Machine...

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[ViddyKJB]

Thank you for all your comments about this video, I'm made up so many of you enjoy it and respect what the many thousands of highly skilled engineers and designers were capable of doing without a single computer back when it really was only slide rules and pencils.

Every time I see a Tornado or Typhoon strutting their stuff I wonder what could have been. No wait, what should have been... and it brings a lump to my throat and a tear to my eye. Amen.

[alarm373]

What a load of romantic nonsense,it was grossly over budget,it was late and would have cost double the original estimates.

the british worker killed of the british aircraft industry,just like today with typhoon,and all the other military hardware we needed over the last ten years.

nimrod late and massively over budget,apache left in a hangar because we did,nt have the pilots ready to fly it,chinooks left for years in hangars,take off your rose tinted specs folks.

[ViddyKJB]

@alarm373 Innovation costs money. Stunningly complicated, technically spectacular innovation costs lots of money. The fact TSR2 was expensive was because it hadn't been done before, it's avionics weren't 'off the shelf' like so many of the American's were. Cost didn't really kill TSR2, it was a terrified Government treading unchartered waters that got cold feet that ended this astonishing aircraft. Don't forget, the same cowardly Government also wanted to abandon Concorde due to cost...

[celticfan60]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH To 'cancel' the aircraft was bad enough ...but to be so SPINELESS as to be TOLD to destroy any jigs so she could NEVER be built is the SINGLE WORSE TRAVESTY IN BRITISH AVIATION HISTORY........BAR NONE!

[f15eag]

I met Roland Beamont in the 80s. TSR-2 was killed out of ignorance. I still cry about it.

[jconnor55]

Excellent video! Such a shame, as one other poster mentioned, the same fate was given the Canadian CF-105. The TSR2's angle of attack both during take off and landing look so much like that of Concorde.

[69waveydavey]

I'm from Preston, and a lot of people still grind their teeth when you mention TSR2. My grandad worked on canbera and lightning, after TSR2 he went to lockheed along with many others. There are many factors which led to it's demise. It's no good slagging everybody off about everything, what's done is done, the documentary on here covers most things.

[brownjack56]

It happened to Canada, too, with their CF-105 Arrow project. They ended up buying F-101 Voodoos from the US. Personally, I believe the CF-105 Arrow would have been a much better aircraft. At least the RAF now has both the Typhoon and the Tornado.

[eatthisvr6]

@Simona050 you need to take a good look at the english scum before you go blaming foreigners for everything.

want to know why so many immigrants do low payed menial jobs? because there are too many indiginous lay abouts who think the world owes them everything and guess who pays for that? oh yeh the people who do work to pay tax (including johnny foreigner). please think a little before posting possibly racist crap on the internet it makes you look stupid

[eatthisvr6]

@dave3663 i did a bit of reading on that and from what i can gather it was technically STILL in advance of anything anybody else had and it wouldve been very possible to put modern electronics in it (the much more powerfull concorde engines were also mentioned) basically they didnt do it because of cost and was it really needed at that point :(

[eatthisvr6]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH the lightning is still to this day an absolute beast of a plane that very very few can match in performance terms but as you say the tsr2 went away from it with 1 reheat! the in service tsr2 wouldve had a fair bit more power too.

i honestly beleive to this day that the tsr2 wouldve been the fastest plane on earth at low level

ps the americans had the right idea by sticking with the hugely late and overbudget f111 they ended up with a very good plane

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

Any aircraft which was capable of blowing off a Lightning on full reheat, as flown by Jimmy Dell, whilst only engaging ONE afterburner is worthy of huge respect. The Lightning was THE finest, fastest interceptor of the 1960's, it still holds climb to altitude records and will out climb an F-15. It was the ONLY NATO interceptor to catch Concorde in a full throttle tail chase competition Ex in 1986. TSR2 pulled away from it on ONE burner......Awesome. DESPISE LABOUR FOREVER-SOCIALIST SCUM.

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@Akuma007i You are talking complete bollocks. The F-111 was NEVER on a par with TSR2. It's avionics were inferior, especially it's terrain following radar which was plagued with problems. The Yanks used off the shelf parts/technology ie already existing avionics. TSR2 utilised ground breaking technology that to this day, over 40 years later is STILL classified. It took the Yanks years to turn a sow's ear into a moderately decent silk purse. TSR2 would STILL be in service until 2030!