Norway's eco prison - 25 Mar 08
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@pbush151 21 years of farming and mutual respect could rebuild almost any repairable personality.
This solution might not be proper for every single prisoner, but unless a physical defect exists in the individual's brain, this lifestyle would be transformative.
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@pbush151 Have you ever been to prison? If you answer No thats why you answered like this. First off Prison IS a correctional facility. It is meant to rehabilitate criminals. You are talking medevil back in time shit where someone was bad so lets hang them or just make them live out the rest of their days in a cage. You have no sense of humanity. I am disturbed by people like you. Somehow i believe you're into animal rights too, but you fail the part of human rights. God forgives why cant you?
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Our society creates these people and then punishes them for being that way. Its time we change the way WE think about people and the "crimes" they commit. Our governments we blindly support kills people everyday in the name of war, God, freedom whatever and when a single person kills we have a hard time understanding. Our system is not working if we do one thing and say something else.
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@pbush151 How dumb are you? The crime should be the same? Do you think the crime should be the same for someone who drives into a crowd and kill 50 people for fun and someone who drives into a crowd and kills 50 people because he suddenly went completely blind and didn't see anything?
Are you aware of what psychosis even means? It means "you" literally dissapear and your brain takes complete control over your actions.
I'm glad you are too dumb to ever get any power over these issues.
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@pbush151 You assume that people who commit crime are thinking rationally at all times as the crime is being committed, and that they value their freedom, i.e. that they would rather be free than in jail. However, that's not the case with Breivik: in his manifesto he states that the time period after arrest, when the trial is going on, is the 'propaganda period'. Even if the penalty for murder was 1000 years, the media attention he gets from the murders is worth more to him than his freedom.
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@Davincidz I disagree with your analysis. A psychotic person is not innocent if they committed a crime. If someone does a crime sane or insane, the punishment should be the same not different. What if they get back into society after their "treatment" and do the same thing again and again?I am a person who believes that if a person commits a crime, they should be punished. I am not against rehabbing drug users but a child molester or murder who is insane should be punished not rehabilitated
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@MsColdCanada No he is currently being held at "ila" which is Norways "worst" prison. People have already put a price tag on his head, so he might get killed. Noone will shed a tear over that. However he might actually be released in approx 15 years (21 prison years), he is cold enough to trick psychiatrists to think he has been rehabiliated and then the law requires us to let him walk. but you can't change a whole otherwise fine system for one crazy motherfucker
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@pbush151 You are very very very wrong.
Yes we have murders in Norway, obviously. However most are either from people who had a psychotic breakdown or handled in affection. The psychotic person is innocent and needs treatment. The person who handled in affection isn't a stone cold killer and should be rehabiliated. Norway is far from perfect in many areas, but our prison system is atleast trying to do the right thing, US just tries to punish people and make them worse which cost society more
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@pbush151 Well, our murder rate is among the lowest in the world, even with the recent massacre. And he will serve life in solitary confinement, because we have a law called "forvaring" which means he's subject to evaluation before he can be let out. He will never be evaluated as "safe", and people have put bounties on his head, so he can never show himself amongst other inmates nor on the outside as long as he lives in any case. And nobody starves here, we do not have that problem.
>murder dozens of people
>get to play with farm animals
SO MUCH BETTER
TheKuroKaminari 6 months ago 9
@Lleanlleawrg Yes, no one kills anyone and no one starves in Norway! I strongly doubt that is the case especially as to what just happened in Norway were a single gunman was able to kill 68 people within a 90 min span and the harshest prison sentence he can get is 21 years... Everyone lives happily ever after on their magical unicorns!! I am sorry but prisons should be used as a deterrent for crime not to try to rehab society's worst individuals.
pbush151 6 months ago 5