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[Nixmix24]

@colddrake80 I understand transition and I understand the effect it has on supply and demand. My original point still remains. I also understand that we aren't set up for walking or even biking. That's my point... thus the necessity of a car... I also currently live in a large city and I still need my own car due to two jobs on either side of town and school. My wife also has two jobs and school and we are stretched as it is with only one vehicle between the two of us. We're getting another car.

[Nixmix24]

@M3minusGrowth Democrats isn't spelled "Republicans"

[maximum411]

@Nixmix24

Besides, nuclear could very easily stand on its own, and when plants are built to be safe, nuclear is far more sustainable than coal or petroleum. I also recently went to a talk at Harvard in which one of the speakers (I forget exactly what his position was, but he works on developing clean technology) said that given the right infrastructure of windmills and solar panels spread across the country, we could ensure a more or less constant supply of energy from them.

[maximum411]

@Nixmix24

Ah okay- I see what the problem is. You just don't get what the word "sustainable" means. Sustainable means that given the resources we have, and given the amount of environmental damage our earth can handle, the most sustainable energy sources will use the least resources and do the least environmental damage over time. Because electricity derives only partially from fossil fuels, it uses less resources and does less environmental damage than a pure fossil fuel (petroleum) does.

[Nixmix24]

@maximum411 That makes perfect sense, you just don't want to see it. Pay attention this time. If you take away the energy that sustains electricity (which is what liberals are trying to do) any stability in electricity is gone (making it unsustainable). If it depends on other forms of energy, it isn't sustainable. It has to be able to stand on its own like coal does.. like gas does.. like nuclear energy does.. so on and so on. This is a VERY simple concept.

[maximum411]

@Nixmix24

"Electricity isn't sustainable because it relies on real sustainable energy." See- that's exactly what I mean- makes no sense whatsoever.

[Nixmix24]

@maximum411 I understand your points and I read through your whole comment before responding. You keep repeating the same rhetoric over and over without a shred of evidence to back it up. Again, you don't want to debate, you want to argue. Facts mean nothing to you when it comes to this.

"it is produced in part from sustainable sources." Yes, I know. you don't seem to understand that this contradicts your own points. Electricity isn't sustainable because it relies on real sustainable energy.

[maximum411]

@Nixmix24

I'm sorry, but it looks like you aren't really understanding the points I'm making. I like debating, but from your responses it's clear that you either aren't really reading or just aren't understanding what I'm saying. Thanks anyway.

I realize that electricity comes from other sources, which I made quite clear in my comment, but you seem to think that I believe that electricity comes from nowhere. The point I was making is that it is produced in part from sustainable sources.

[Nixmix24]

@maximum411 Electricity is sustainable in as far as the other energy sources are available to sustain electricity. If electricity could stand on its own, then yes, I would say that it is sustainable, but it can't. How can you say that petrol isn't sustainable when it is one of the many sources that make up the foundation of electrical sustainability? That makes no sense. Petrol can stand alone on its own merits just fine, electricity cannot. It's you who needs to provide validity to your points.

[Nixmix24]

@maximum411 It really is that simple. What makes you think that they can't get the approval for any obstacle they come across? Canada stands to lose nothing and to gain everything from this. Do you really think that if the US doesn't get it, they will just give up? Please.

[Nixmix24]

@maximum411 Again, you need to provide more than just rhetoric from the left if you want to make this argument.

[Nixmix24]

@maximum411 And where are these "facts" that you are getting? What's the source? Give me a credible source that doesn't have an anti-oil agenda, and I will begin to take you seriously.