Re: Why Teaching Creationism is a Horrible Idea

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[dotoree]

AMAZING...you censor and delete information you don't like...just like the atheists in communist countries. Do you think that has ANYTHING to do with objective investigation of facts and science????

[Setar]

@dotoree The hell are you talking about? I haven't done that, unless I've been going on youtube in my sleep and doing it without remembering it. Can you provide any evidence of censorship on my part?

[dotoree]

@Setar Setar, I apologize...I had been on the same video on another page..and somehow changed to your page without realizing it and so didn't see the comments I expected. I HAVE been banned by several atheists and it's common for atheism to censor and ban ideas and evidence for its rivals. But, sorry for accusing you of something you didn't do.

[Setar]

@dotoree Common for atheism to censor and ban ideas and evidence for its rivals? I smell projection, because virtually all of the "atheists" here - as well as the theists who debunk poor apologetics and creationists - are staunch advocates of free speech. On the contrary, religion and the religious have a long history of censorship, ranging from false flagging/DMCAs all the way to the Inquisition.

[JoshuaFVrooman]

WTF?!

You're taking trolling way to far.............. get outta your moms basement bud.

[dotoree]

@Setar On evidence for a flood...there's a ton of it. See here for example:

watch?v=D6JWCMG8f3M

Many articles and programs in science journals talk about mass extinctions in history and massive cataclyms and the evidence. They try to attribute it to other things (like a comet for example)...but the evidence cited fits extremely well with a world wide flood (and one creationist theory by Dr. Walter Brown of MIT is that a comet was instrumental in causing this).

[dotoree]

@Setar Even in so called free countries,atheists have deceived people into thinking that apriori bias is rational&that no evidence that points to anything except their materialism should be allowed into public schools, academia &often even the media. Atheists are advocates of free speech? That's one of the biggest jokes in history...the only free speech most of them tolerate is speech that supports their ideas. Quite a few of them have also banned me personally from commenting here on youtube.

[dotoree]

@Setar On censorship, every country that has been officially atheist engaged in extreme forms of censorship and been about the worst violators of freedom of speech in history. The only comparable entity to atheist censorship and suppression of freedom and human rights and liberty would be the Catholic church..which ironically is a cousin of atheism in significant ways (burning many 1000s of Bibles and people who tried to read them) and replacing God's instructions with man's traditions.

[dotoree]

@Setar There are billions of confirmations of creationist biogenesis against the establishments idea of spontaneous generation...billions of confirmations of creationist natural selection (speciation from the species to family level) published long before Darwin's NS (speciation from family to kingdom levels). Many other examples. Why don't you question the establishment's thinking? This is how nearly every advance in science has happened. Also, why have bias toward your own death?

[dotoree]

@Setar Sorry, I missed this. I'm extremely busy now, so can't answer in detail, but

A) The Bible never claims that pi=3.

B) look at /watch?v=Id2rZS59xSE and tell me with a straight face that there is a better chance that all that complexity came about by accident than by a designer. Would you ban evidence that a painting was created by an artist or an engine designed by an engineer? That would be deceitful bias. But, banning evidence for a creator is the same thing.

[dotoree]

Regarding Jesus and extra biblical corroboration:

A) This is a dishonest standard. Historians don't ask for confirmation of events within Rome or Greece from outside sources. Most of history is based on witnesses who are in the same group they are writing about.

B) But, we do have testimony both within the Bible, from the enemies of Christians (the Jewish leaders) and from other sources as well. And this evidence is better than that of many things in history...

[dotoree]

...far better than the evidence for Alexander the Great for example.

The problem with the vast majority of arguments of atheists is that they make one standard for their ideas and for that of secular history and science..and then a completely different standard for the Bible. Some are unaware that they do this. Maybe you are. But, this is deeply dishonest, immoral and a violation of a genuine search for truth. Another serious problem is the blurring of definitions that distorts history.

[Setar]

@dotoree What confirmations? Pi is not 3, there was no global flood, and if our bodies were designed then God must be MacGyver =/ As for historical confirmations? Corroborate Jesus' resurrection with extra-Biblical documentation (I made a short video on this in response to a claim by ThickShades that Jesus was resurrected) and then we'll talk.