Child dies because Parents are idiots

Faith:A belief in something for which there is NO proof.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080328/ap_on_re_us/daughter_s_death_prayer;_ylt=...


Listen to the 911 call

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6q88goGrc4

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[xxravenwing250xx]

Well, I'm glad my parents raised ME Christian, because maybe there is no God, and maybe I'm wrong about everything I've ever belived, but if I though there was no God and nothing beyond this life, I'd have killed myself a long time ago because life on earth SUCKS. The only reason I live this life is because I believe God loves me. And it's important to raise children to believe in certain things, because otherwise they have no starting point and they will spend their life confused.

[PathofReason]

Life on earth doesn't suck....well it does for some people but life is basically what you make of it. You don't have to play pretend to have a fulfilling life and it's actually a good thing to raise your children with open minds. I am going to allow my child to study all religions instead of teaching that only 1 is true. That way they are not only educated but they will have more understanding of other faiths. I know people who weren't raised Christian and they aren't confused.

[gicb104]

God's plan is one hell of a mess!! He creates man with "freewill" (major mistake), then he creates cancer for "his children", birth defects, mental illness and incurable diseases. Yes, god is truly wonderful (NOT!). Religions and beliefs in gods has been, and will continue to be, a root cause of killings and deaths in this world. Like the age old question.... how many people have died in the name of god???

[NatGrays]

I think this porr little girl's parents should be ashamed of themselves. Imagine just giving up on your child like that? you would do ANYTHING for you child to survive. You would not let your pet suffer with an illness - you'd get them help - let alone a child. These people are murderers - insane, ignorant and sick.

[ronarprfct]

@ronarprfct I am sure that-if a new law was enacted that said you had to beat your daughter twice as much as your son-you would then do what YOU thought was right and disobey that law. In truth, if anyone tries to make a law against raising children in Christianity, I've little doubt that a war will ensue-even if not all Christians join it-or that-at the very least-the law will be roundly disobeyed by any true follower of Christ.

[ronarprfct]

@ronarprfct Of course, it will always be just subjective and you can just describe people like me as delusional. But you can not-in a country with guaranteed freedom of religion-tell Christians that they can't raise their children as Christians. The bible actually commands us to raise them as Christians. If any law of man ever tries to stop that, the bible also tells us we are to obey God's law rather than man's.

[ronarprfct]

@ronarprfct I was raised as a Christian. When I got older, I decided I didn't believe the bible or in God for several years in my late 20's/early 30's. I then came back to believing on my own and was given a true and pretty much unshakable faith in God by personal experience with him. Once you've experienced God's presence and seen him work in you to make you better-once you've actually felt the Holy Spirit's influence-you no longer can disbelieve unless you are trying to.

[ronarprfct]

@ronarprfct It is far from proven-and this is an important point-that children who are truly raised in accordance with all the bible actually says are any less happy as an adult or any less capable of deciding for themselves what to believe than children who aren't raised that way. I know plenty of people who were raised Christian and later decided for themselves that they didn't believe in God or in Christianity.

[ronarprfct]

They are already going to be charged with the child's death, I am sure. I am a Christian and I have no problem with that. I don't think the charge will be murder, but manslaughter or negligent homicide. As to indoctrination, any education concerning such things can be painted as indoctrination. Once they are in the public school system, they are being indoctrinated daily AGAINST Christianity because of that bias in the material. Not to mention the anti-Christian bias on tv before that.

[ronarprfct]

It is obvious from the fact that 1)Timothy was instructed to take a little wine for his stomach in the bible and 2)The wine was made by man out of materials provided by God that it IS OK to used man-made things to treat physical illness and difficulty. God isn't going to miraculously heal us all the time or even often-he has already provided us with the means to heal ourselves quite often and expects us to us them. Besides, he is probably more concerned with our spiritual health. usually.

[massemorder1]

well what about your big greese hero.

and 1 thing thats different:

that there was no treatment thats against these desise i think.

and sometimes there is alot pain in some treatments - or to not be with friends...

u will die - dam alquida jerk

u got no right to judge anyone for a sandcorn - while u cost 100 trillion dollares - and assist saudiarabia -

baby kidnapping . -

kindergarden rape..

and terrorist production - by child hostages . talk about child labour.

[CorpsmanUP87]

As an Atheist, I have to disagree on what you said about the girl being better off because she's dead. I believe if should have survived her parents idiotic bullshit, she would grow up to be a better person, having to endure the fumdamentalist torment given by her parents. There are victims then there are survivors.

[Hadesofthe07]

amen PoR. I was raised by ignorant parents and I do sometimes think that id rather have never been born. You very well may be right about her being better off dead as it will save her from walking around this earth with only half a deck of cards.